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1. "Was it Bridget?"
Posted by adminlizzieborden on Jan-8th-02 at 9:13 PM

By raystephanson on Sunday, 12/23/2001 - 06:59 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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NO, but you may want to browse this site (thanks to Ann Sherry on the original board).



 
By raystephanson on Monday, 12/24/2001 - 01:46 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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After reading it, I can say it adds nothing new. That author should have read more before writing her essay.

The same facts apply to either Lizzie or Bridget: no bloody clothes, no murder weapon, etc. In addition, more than a few saw Bridget outside around 9:30AM; and, Lizzie says "it wasn't Bridget ...". That was good enough for everyone then or now.

 
By kat on Monday, 12/24/2001 - 09:22 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Ray, I haven't read the above "link" yet but I would like to remind you that Inquest 126, 127, Mrs Churchill testifies she saw Bridget outside washing ONE PARLOUR WINDOW at about 10:00 a.m., and THE ONLY OTHER person who it has been said saw Bridget that morning outside MAY have been Mary Doolan, the "Kelly's girl", around 9:30. That's NOT "more than a few": it is 1 person sworn and says 10 o'clock, and the other we have NO TESTIMONY, only an IMPLIED police Witness Statement that doesn't QUOTE Miss Doolan, only Bridget. That's not quite good enough considering all the folks in the nearby neighbor hood who were out & about that morning.
Please take note, as I've looked this up before for posting. (Harry, can you check Mrs. Kelly in the Prelim.?--she's not asked about it in the Trial)

 
By harry on Monday, 12/24/2001 - 10:47 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Mrs. Churchill repeats her "one window of the parlor" testimony in the Preliminary beginning page 276.

Mrs. Kelly testified as follows:

On Direct:

Q. You had not been in a position to see into that yard at all that day, before that?
A. I do not remember of being.

On Cross-Examination:

Q. What room in the house had you been in that morning most of the time?
A. I had been most of the time in the parlor with this nurse.
Q. Which side was that, towards Mr. Borden?s house?
A. No Sir, the other side.

 
By kat on Monday, 12/24/2001 - 11:06 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Thank you & Merry Christmas.
One more question...doesn't Mrs. Kelly say her "girl" talked to Bridget that morning? (But may not have Observed it herself? Only hearsay?)

 
By harry on Monday, 12/24/2001 - 11:31 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Merry Christmas Kat.

No, Kat, she doesn't mention Bridget's "talk". Almost all of her testimony is in regard to Andrew trying to open the front door and the time.

 
By kat on Monday, 12/24/2001 - 11:37 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Ah! Good! Thanks!
Now I can sleep tight tonight with visions of sugarplums dancing in my head!
Peace be in your home...Kat

 
By raystephanson on Wednesday, 12/26/2001 - 02:11 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Edward Radin DOES accept the testimony that Bridget was outside washing windows from 9:30AM for about an hour. He claims the murder of Abby was done before 9:15AM (when Bridget was throwing up in the back yard). This cannot be proved, or disproved - no testimony or eveidence!

Could Bridget hold it in and run downstairs, thru the house, out to the back yard? Wouldn't this arouse questions then or later? Wasn't Andy still in the house then? Wasn't Bridget forbidden access to the second floor?

 
By kat on Thursday, 12/27/2001 - 04:43 am [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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TO answer, my opinion:
Probably
Probably
Maybe
Probably.

Sorry about the "Maybe"-that point is still flexible.

 
By raystephanson on Thursday, 12/27/2001 - 06:51 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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The bottom line is this: after the first hour, Bridget was NEVER a suspect to those running the investigation. Edward Radin has an interesting book though; the first re-investigation since Pearson's book. He also gives a time-table, the mark of a meticulous investigation.

Lizzie said "it wasn't Bridget or anyone who worked for Father ...." I believe that.