Titanic Fire?

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:42 am

Last Mysteries of the Titanic
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Last Mysteries of the Titanic
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Special/Documentary, 120 Mins.

Director James Cameron leads a team of underwater explorers back to the shipwreck.

Original Airdate: July 24, 2005.
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--The come-on question is:
Was there a fire aboard the Titanic before it ever set sail, dooming it from the beginning?
Something too about the last 70% of the ship we've not seen before.

--After this program is a show from 1997:

Titanic Voyage: Untold Stories
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Titanic Voyage: Untold Stories
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Special/Other, 60 Mins.

Personal letters and underwater footage depict the vessel's passengers and fate.

Original Airdate: December 14, 1997.

pigeonsandpears · Post by **pigeonsandpears** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:58 am

Thanks Kat! I have been doing research on the Titanic lately. I just got some actual footage of the ship just days before it sank as well as some film of the iceberg that the ship hit.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:05 am

More of the come-on implied that they could have used that ice to help with the fire. It's confusing. We'll see.

Lately I heard that if the ship hadn't turned away and received a side blow it would have survived. It was built to hit head-on, but not a wound to the side.

pigeonsandpears · Post by **pigeonsandpears** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:09 am

Interesting. I had never thought of that.

Why exactly did they think it was unsinkable?

stuartwsa · Post by **stuartwsa** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:08 am

I've heard that before. A head-on collision would not have opened so many of the water-tight compartments, so the ship would have stayed afloat.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:08 pm

Thanks.
I guess we will learn more Sunday night and after Allen/Missy comes back!

(I never saw that newest movie. I did hear Cameron left the set down in Mexico like so much litter. I wondered if other movie sets get left lying around? Someone who was on a talk show recently mentioned seeing the Apocalypse Now set still in the Phillipines?) (The question mark is because I can't remember if that is where they shot the movie...)

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:21 pm

There was also a show on recently about the Titanic on Secrets Of The Dead, I TiVoed it, but, haven't been able to watch it yet. I believe its something about 43 bodies they had recovered from the Titanic and they were going to use DNA to determine who these passengers were, it sounded interesting. Anyone watch it?

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:55 pm

Yes that was the show on that graveyard in Nova Scotia. The sea level is rising and they had to move the bodies anyway so they thought they might ID some. It's very interesting. It was on about a year-and-a-half ago, I think.

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:25 am

Oh, was it? If its that one, I've seen it already, but, its definitely worth watching again from what I remember.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:35 pm

Kat @ Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:42 am wrote:
--The come-on question is:
Was there a fire aboard the Titanic before it ever set sail, dooming it from the beginning?

Quickly I referenced my books at home on the Titanic to make sure I had it right before posting. I brought this one with me today so I could quote from it. I will probably find a little more about it in the next few days, but this should answer the questions about the fire.

Titanic: Legacy of the World's Greatest Ocean Liner By Susan Wells/ Foreward by William F. Buckley Jr. page 6:

"While the Titanic lies at Southampton taking aboard cargo and supplies, capenters, painters, and plumbers work feverishly to complete a number of cabins prior to the sailing date, while belowdecks an ominous condition has developed. Due to the coal strike, Titanic was unable to take aboard fuel at Belfast from a single source, so coal from several vessels was loaded into the new liner's bunkers. In the number 10 bunker of the aft starboard side of the number 6 boiler room, the spontaneous ignition has occurred, and even before the liner's Belfast departure, the coal is smoldering. Round- the- clock shifts of trimmers are assigned to control the fire, shoveling away the top layers to get at the glowing embers beneath. Chief engineer Joseph Bell, who joined the ship at Belfast, and his staff are fully aware of the condition: his daily reports at both Belfast and Southampton must have notified Captain Smith as well. Plans for taking on cargo and for on-time departure are not modified. Even though the fire continues up to and past the sailing time, there is no public record or report of the occurrence."

On this page is a picture a few of the several thousand tons of coal which are today scattered across the debris field.

I really recommend for anyone who hasn't seen it, Ghosts of the Abyss. Two remote operated vehicles, which were specially made to explore Titanic, are used to get inside and capture some never before seen footage.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:49 pm

Thanks! Knew you'd come through! I actually missed most of the programs I touted! It was on in the background, on "mute."

They did have a lot of new footage of their deep explorer with experts describing what we were viewing- whose area, which deck- we saw etched glass windows which were for privacy- things like that. Did you catch the show? They said the whole thing was crumbling and faster than they thought. Some kind of marine organism.

It seems this Capt. Smith was in charge of the Titanic's sister ship Olympic when it collided with a Navy ship and was torn? That ship survived.

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:39 pm

Kat @ Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:05 am wrote:More of the come-on implied that they could have used that ice to help with the fire. It's confusing. We'll see.

Lately I heard that if the ship hadn't turned away and received a side blow it would have survived. It was built to hit head-on, but not a wound to the side.

It would have had a better chance of surviving with a bow-on collision.

However, if the First Officer had given the engine room the right command they would not have hit the berg at all. One mistake and all those people paid for it. I saw the last half of Cameron's Titanic last night. What a good movie! I saw it at the theater. Blew me away. Best movie I ever saw. Maybe even better that Sound of Music. Sorry, Charmian. On second thought, maybe it wasn't that good. But it was a powerful story.

-1bigsteve (o:

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