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Fall River's #1 claim to fame is Lizzie Borden. There may be other "claims to fame" for Fall River, but I have no knowledge of them.

This got me to thinking of all America's cities and what their claims to fame are.

My town, which is very small, doesn't have much of a claim to fame. The famous bank-robbing Baker boys had a relative who lived in my town and they hid out in the basement of that house. But they never robbed a bank here or anything adventurous like that.
LIZZIE BORDEN'S THEME SONG
(to the tune of Green Acres)

Fall River is the place to be,
city living is the life for me.
Bought a nicer house,
so big and wide!
Forget 92 Second Street,
that's where I was charged with homicide!
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Carrot-Top is from here :peanut19:
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2002 Winter Olympics


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Fairhaven was home to one of the original Pilgrims, John Cooke, who settled here in 1662. He ended up being the last surviving male from the Mayflower voyage.

The British did some looting a burning here in 1778 during the Revolution.

The Delano family is from here: both Ulysses S. Grant and Franklin Delano Roosevelt descended from the Fairhaven Delanos. The Delano Homestead was built by FDR's great grandfather Warren Delano I and FDR visited here frequently as a young man. At Thanksgiving in 1903, at the Delano house in Fairhaven, he told his mother of his engagement to Eleanor. He last visited here in 1936. The house is now a bed and breakfast.

In 1841, herman Melville sailed from Fairhaven aboard the whaleship Acushnet. Ten years later he published Moby-Dick.

Manjiro Nakahama, the first Japanese person to live in American, was brought here in 1843 by Capt. William Whitfield, who had rescued the boy from an island in the Pacific. Manjiro returned to Japan and became very prominent when Japan was opened for trade with the west. Manjiro's story is still taught to Japanese children and Emperor Akihito has visited Fairhaven.

Capt. Joshua Slocum rebuilt the sloop Spray here before sailing it around the word alone between 1895 and 1898. He was the first man to sail around the world alone.

Emma Borden was staying with the Brownells here on August 4, 1892.

Standard Oil Co. multi-millionaire Henry H. Rogers was a Fairhaven native. After he made his fortune he built a number of magnificent public buildings here, including our high school, library, town hall, the Unitarian Memorial Church and more. Rogers is #22 on the list of America's Wealthiest 100. (J.P. Morgan is 23 and Bill Gates is 35.)

Jane and Peter Fonda's mother graduated from Fairhaven High School.

We never had the Olympics. . .
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There was a doctor a lonnnng time ago who was cutting off people's fingers & stuff for crazy experiments. I think he kept people captive in his basement. They found the site of his house and were excavating around there. I don't think many people know about it.
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The small town I live near now has no claims to fame.

However....

The house I grew up in is on L'ile St-Louis in Paris, near to where Marie Curie lived and to where Voltaire lived.

My 'family plot' is in the Cimetiere du Pere Lachaise very near to where Jim Morrison is buried.

We may have not done much to be 'famous' but our neighbors did!
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My hometown in Wisconsin doesn't have much- Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch the football player is from there. And, of course, not too far away, Ed Gein- a wonderful distinction. A little more to the north there is still a lodge where Dillinger and his gang were almost caught but escaped after a big gun battle with the FBI. Here in Harpers Ferry we have John Brown. I go through the town past the fire hall where he was caught to the train station every morning. A couple of miles down the road is Maryland where the author Nora Roberts lives.

Oh, and another one. Another post reminded me. Liberace was orig from Milwaukee and when he was first getting started he played in a piano bar called "Mel's" in my home town.
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Goodness, Gracious, Fair Haven Guy, your town has all kinds of interesting tidbits about it. That is so neat!!! :smile:

Augusta, I believe I saw a segment on some TV show on A&E (maybe the travel channel) about that Doctor who kept people captive and did weird experiments. It sounds familiar. But of course, it may not be the same guy. There could have been more than one crazy doctor in the past who liked to collect appendages from unwilling participants...

I really love hearing about the interesting stories of towns. Every town has a story, but it seems that so few have something people across the world know about and are interested in.

I'd say that Miss Lizzie and all of her cohorts did a fabulous job of putting Fall River on the map! Wouldn't you agree?
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(to the tune of Green Acres)

Fall River is the place to be,
city living is the life for me.
Bought a nicer house,
so big and wide!
Forget 92 Second Street,
that's where I was charged with homicide!
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I completely misconstrued the topic and was all ready to post, "Lizzie is to Fall River as: dog poop is to punchbowl." (Well, probably in the opinion of some Fall Riverites.)

Since I live in the D. C. suburbs, there's lots of history around here. I live in a community called Lake Barcroft, and perhaps our most famous resident was the late Justice Thurgood Marshall. His widow still lives here. Of course, George and Martha lived right up the road...but that was a while back.

There's recently been some info in the papers about the original "Uncle Tom's Cabin," which is located over in the Maryland suburbs. I had forgotten that Uncle Tom was based on a real person, whose name (as I recall) was Josiah Henson. The "cabin" was actually the summer kitchen of a plantation house and is now part of a much larger structure. Happily, when it was up for sale recently, the county bought it and plans to open it to the public. That's far better than having it torn down and replaced by a McMansion!

My favorite bit of history concerning my own community is about an area called Bailey's Crossroads, which is within walking distance of my home. The name comes from the fact that it was once the winter quarters for the Bailey Brothers Circus, later part of Ringling Brothers. Alas, no remnants of the circus remain, except for a stylized "big top" logo that appears on signs in the vicinity.
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Edisto @ Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:55 pm wrote:I completely misconstrued the topic and was all ready to post, "Lizzie is to Fall River as: dog poop is to punchbowl."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think it's quite funny! Lizzie on the other hand...well, you better hope she doesn't have a hatchet nearby when she hears of this!!! :wink:
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(to the tune of Green Acres)

Fall River is the place to be,
city living is the life for me.
Bought a nicer house,
so big and wide!
Forget 92 Second Street,
that's where I was charged with homicide!
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Well I guess Atlanta has many claims to fame, Margaret Mitchell and "Gone with the wind", the Wayne Williams murders, the Olympic bombings, etc...
I grew up in the suburbs of Marietta. In 1913, 13 year old Mary Phagan was murdered while going to get her paycheck at a pencil factory. The plant manager, Leo Frank, was accused and was lynched right down the street that I lived on. She had been beaten, strangled, and possibly raped. Leo Frank was the last person to see her alive. They hung him like the Klu-Klux-Klan were infamous for.
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Dr. William DeVries. He graduated from the same high school I did. He was the lead surgeon for the implantation of the first artificial heart. The recipient was Dr. Barney Clark.


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Our claim to fame here in Saratoga Springs would have to be our 140 year-old thoroughbred race track. It has been open almost continuously (with a brief period of being closed during a few wars) since 1863. Every August, all the wealthy horse owners converge on the city, with a race called the Travers Stakes, which rivals the Triple Crown in importance.
Also, the potato chip was invented at a local restaurant back in the 1880s.
David Hyde Pierce was born and raised here. We sang in the Episcopal Church choir together.
Scott Valentine ("Family Ties") was my neighbor as a teenager.
And Monty Woolley, the actor best known for playing the irascible Sheridan Whiteside in "The Man Who Came To Dinner" was a born and bred Saratogian as well.
Last but not least, a Lizzie connection: Grace Hartley Howe, Lizzie's cousin, married a Saratogian, Louis McHenry Howe. The lived here for a few years after their marriage. Unfortunately, info on them and their life here is scarce. He published a newspaper that rivalled the established town paper, and didn't last long. Very few copies are known to exist.
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I have lived in Brooke County, West Virginia for most of my life. I've moved around a good bit, but basically stayed within Brooke County. However, I do a great bit of traveling around between Hancock, Brooke, and Ohio counties on a day to day basis. Between the three there is a very rich history. I'm not sure that anyone outside of West Virginia would be interested. I didn't really put these in chronological order.


Bethany College was founded in Brooke County in Bethany, West Virginia by Alexander Campbell in 1840. It was the first private college ever built in this state. The home of it's founder Alexander Campbell is still standing today as a museum. It's about 25 minutes from where I live.

West Liberty State College is West Virginia's oldest public college. It's located in West Liberty which is in Ohio County. This is only about 5 miles from where I grew up, and my grandmother worked there for a good many years.

Wheeling, West Virginia in Ohio County was the original capital of West Virginia. You can tour West Virginia Independence Hall which was the Capitol Building.

Wheeling is also the home to the oldest operating suspension Bridge in the world.

Marsh Wheeling Stogies was America's oldest cigar manufacturer in the United States, still located in the same place and operating under the same name, when National Cigar bought them out in 2001. They first joined the company in 1998, and then sold out to them. They had been operating since 1840. ( I thought it was really neat that in the movie The Green Mile it's a Marsh Wheeling cigar box that they kept the little mouse in.)

Charles Manson lived in McMechan, West Virginia with his aunt and uncle for many years. He married a girl from that area and produced a son named Charles Manson Jr. Both he and his mother served time at the Moundsville State Penitentiary.

Brooke Crescent Glass in Wellsburg was one of the oldest operating Glass Houses at the time it closed. It had been operating since 1879 and closed in 2001. Both my husband and grandfather worked there.

Wheeling is the original ending point for the National Road which was the first federally sponsored highway.

Oglebay Winter Festival of Lights is the nation’s largest holiday light show and it takes place every year at Oglebay Park in Wheeling. It's really something to see! I take my kids there every year! These are bigger than life size displays of lights. They are really beautiful. I have some pictures I found online of some of the displays. You drive through the route for a small fee, and its usually well worth any wait.

http://bhs.broo.k12.wv.us/brk-cty/wells ... ctures.htm

http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvwags/stogies.htm

http://www.oglebay-resort.com/fol.htm

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Missy, did you know all that, or did you refresh your memory with a little "Google?"

My contribution sags under all you guy's!
THey are really good!

Well, as for Orlando- there's Disney. :smile:
And Ted Bundy got the death penalty in an Orlando courtroom, which was carried out.
And the murder of an elderly woman very nearby in an apartment community, occasioned the first court case in which DNA was accepted as evidence, in the US.

Also nearby, was The Bubble Room Restaurant, where a famous attempted murder was plotted- the wife shot in the head and lived- which occured in Daytona.

We had Gambol Rogers, the troubadour, and Amanda Bearse who was the neighbor in "Married With Children." She went to high scool with Stef and I was just cleaning out a closet last week and found a news item that said Stefani beat Amanda as Best Actress In The State Of Florida in the High School Thespian Competition! :smile:

I'll have to keep thinking- is there a website I can check??
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We had Bundy when he was at BYU. Plus there were some deaths here that were attributed to him.


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Kat @ Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:25 pm wrote: Missy, did you know all that, or did you refresh your memory with a little "Google?"
All of these places are places that I've known about, been to myself, and that I see quite often. I had posted information about some of them in a prior thread. Such as the fact that my grandfather and husband both worked at Brooke Glass. I'm planning on attending West Liberty to continue my schooling with a bachelors degree, and my grandmother had also worked there for many years. I did however brush up on the exact dates with a little help from google. I figured if I was going to say this was the oldest or the largest, I should be able to show it with a little data, and I wanted to make sure I had the dates right. I don't like the idea of maybe posting incorrect information. I always recheck everything, it's a habit for me.

I take my kids each year to see the festival of lights and I know that people do come from all over the country to see it. (I wasn't kidding when I said there was a wait.) Every year it seems to get better than the year before. My son doesn't like going so much anymore because he says he's getting too old for stuff like that. :roll: These pictures don't even represent the half of the exhibits. If anybody ever gets the chance I recommend they see it!

Personally I don't like driving across the suspension bridge much, but then bridges make me nervous anyway. I always imagine if I have to stop on one for long waiting on a light to change or something, that it starts to sway ever so slightly. My husband worked on Wheeling Island a few years ago before we moved, and I had to drive across it quite often to get to where he worked. You can take another bridge that brings you into town further away from the place, but I always took the suspension because it was the fastest route. It's really a nice old bridge.
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Kat @ Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:25 pm wrote:Missy, did you know all that, or did you refresh your memory with a little "Google?"

My contribution sags under all you guy's!
THey are really good!

Well, as for Orlando- there's Disney. :smile:
And Ted Bundy got the death penalty in an Orlando courtroom, which was carried out.
And the murder of an elderly woman very nearby in an apartment community, occasioned the first court case in which DNA was accepted as evidence, in the US.

Also nearby, was The Bubble Room Restaurant, where a famous attempted murder was plotted- the wife shot in the head and lived- which occured in Daytona.

We had Gambol Rogers, the troubadour, and Amanda Bearse who was the neighbor in "Married With Children." She went to high scool with Stef and I was just cleaning out a closet last week and found a news item that said Stefani beat Amanda as Best Actress In The State Of Florida in the High School Thespian Competition! :smile:

I'll have to keep thinking- is there a website I can check??
Personally, I think those are some pretty good claims to fame Kat. The Amanda Bearse thing is great. Stefani beat her out, that is a personal claim to fame for Stefani. :smile:
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I like that you googled and got your town's stories straight!
You are very good about that. I admire it. :smile:
I should have done the same.
I can't recall the names of the Bubble Room case or the Elderly lady case.

I remember your posting about the glass before. That was very impressive!
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I always found it odd that Fall River should be known for a double murder.
Fall River should be known for it's rich textile heritage and ethnic diversity, before ethnic diversity was just a catch phrase. Fall River was once the largest Textile Mill town in the world, rivaling such places as Lawrence MA and Manchester England.
But sadly many fine Mill buildings have burnt down, and the city has demolished almost as many. It was the textile industry that build this town and very little respect or reminder of that is left. We should have had a Museum dedicated to the Textile worker long ago. The cotton Mills were Fall River's real claim to fame, but over time it was highjacked by the legend of a little lady and her ax.

When ever I travel and people ask where Fall River is, I make the connection to Lizzie because that's how they know Fall River.

Just like New Bedford is known for it's whaling history, at one time it was more famous for the Big Dans Rape Case, especially after the movie. For a while people would ask where I was from, and I would add Fall River. They would ask "where's that?" And I would respond, "Next door to New Bedord, you know the Big Dans Rape place..." Such is popular culture.
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What is the Big Dans Rape Case? :?:
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A woman was raped on a pool table in Big Dans Tavern while others watched. I think there was a movie with Jodie Foster in it.

Now we've just had the "Puzzles" case, in which 18 year old Jason Robida entered a New Bedford gay bar, Puzzles, and took a hatchet and a gun to patrons, wounding three. He then fled, ended up in a killing a police officer in Arkansas, a female traveling companion and himself in a shoot-out with police. It was all over the national news a couple of weeks ago.
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Hi Kat: Sorry, but Kat had a question about Big Dan's Rape Case. I posted it in the wrong place. Sorry. To find the answer please go to STAY FOR TEA under the topic: NEW HERE. My apology... :sad:
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Yes Kat, in case you ever wanted to rent the movie, it's out there on DVD, it's called: THE ACCUSED, and it was out in 1988.

It was your average New England neghborhood bar. Most had a pool table or/and a Pin ball machine or two. I remember at the time everyone had a pool table joke. Society can be cruel.
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Yes, fairhavenguy, was there not a Mark Twain connection to Fairhaven, and/or the Rogers Family?
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