Headstones or footstones?

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Shelley we are lucky you have such a stick-to-it nature!!!
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Way to go, Shelley! That's a relief. No one deserves burial beneath a path.

Yes, some of those plastic flowers can be awful. Good that you removed them.

The cemetery where my mother is interred has an interesting practice. The cemetery itself puts flowers (artificial) on the graves. They appear to rotate them from one grave to another. You can still bring flowers yourself and they have the small urns to hold those but they make sure every grave has something on it. What a nice thing to do.
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THANK YOU SHELLEY !!





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All's well that ends well. I tried to reproduce the 1927 photo. So many trees have been cut down over the years. Lizzie would be surprised how it all has changed.


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If I understand this correctly then nobody is where I thought they were. When I looked at the ground and thought to myself "Here lies Lizzie Borden" she wasn't there. When I was avoiding walking on where I thought they were, out of respect, I was unknowingly walking on top of them, including Lizzie.
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The dead are past caring; it's the living who try to maintain the respect and dignity, I've often wondered where the custom or superstition began that it is awful to walk over a coffin buried 6 feet down. Then there's that expression "over my dead body".
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I don't think that Lizzie and her family really care whether or not you or anybody is walking over their graves. They are all dead and don't know anyway.
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According to an item in the Plattsburgh Sentinel (Oct. 23, 1894) the tall Borden monument cost $2250. This was previously reported on the Forum by Harry in 2007.

A few years ago I purchased a headstone for my dear wife. It was fiftten inches tall and was constructed of black African granite. It cost $2900.

Times have certainly changed!
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William, I know what you mean. My parents grave is covered with a slab of black African Marble and the headstone is made of the same stone. It cost a small fortune.
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As a child, my grandmother would take me to the cemetery on occasion to put flowers on family graves. She'd always caution me not to walk on anyone's grave, as it was disrespectful to the dead. I still try not to walk across someone's grave if I can help it....just out of habit.

It's probably a long standing tradition, not to walk across a grave.
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Shelley @ Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:32 am wrote:I've often wondered where the custom or superstition began that it is awful to walk over a coffin buried 6 feet down.
Wife and I like to take our daily walk through the cemetery up here. To be honest, we're squeemish about walking on a grave. Not out of respect, but we're afraid of falling in the darn thing.
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joe @ Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:24 pm wrote:
Shelley @ Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:32 am wrote:I've often wondered where the custom or superstition began that it is awful to walk over a coffin buried 6 feet down.
Wife and I like to take our daily walk through the cemetery up here. To be honest, we're squeemish about walking on a grave. Not out of respect, but we're afraid of falling in the darn thing.
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Hi ya Joe, yeah thats a problem especially in the older cemeteries. On the topic, normally, especially down South those smaller stones are used as foot stones. Does not Lizzie a head stone? I thought she had a huge one at one time?
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Cemetery Hunter @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:53 pm wrote:
joe @ Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:24 pm wrote:
Shelley @ Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:32 am wrote:I've often wondered where the custom or superstition began that it is awful to walk over a coffin buried 6 feet down.
Wife and I like to take our daily walk through the cemetery up here. To be honest, we're squeemish about walking on a grave. Not out of respect, but we're afraid of falling in the darn thing.
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Hi ya Joe, yeah thats a problem especially in the older cemeteries. On the topic, normally, especially down South those smaller stones are used as foot stones. Does not Lizzie a head stone? I thought she had a huge one at one time?
A small one on the ground. Probably about 2 ft X 8 in, 2-3 in. high. Says "Lizbeth". There is a huge one for the Borden plot, however, and maybe that's the one you're thinking of. If I remember right, Pa, Ma, and the 2 daughters are buried in that plot.
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Might be though I thought I saw a pic some time ago of Lizzie's grave with a large stone and a deaths head angel on it....hmmmm, might have been something else.
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Cemetery Hunter @ Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:17 pm wrote:Might be though I thought I saw a pic some time ago of Lizzie's grave with a large stone and a deaths head angel on it....hmmmm, might have been something else.
Only one I know of. Maybe someone else on the forum can shed more light on this.
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Yep I have seen that one. Don't know maybe I have this confused with something else not saying your wrong its obvious your right according to your photo.
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