Thanks for the photos on Susan Atkins, twinsre! I had only seen the first one you posted. I had never seen her husband before. Interesting. They were all supposed to get the death penalty, then the state outlawed it for a bit and their sentences were automatically commuted to 'life'. But wasn't the death penalty in CA approved again, and there are people on their death row today? It's somehow unfair that these murderers still get to hang on to their 'life' sentences. That may be a big disappointment for many. But if they let her or the others out on parole - the public response would probably be like letting Sirhan Sirhan out. He keeps going before the board, too, and it just ain't gonna happen.
Conjugal visits!

I had no idea Tex Watson was having them. What a lousy decision that was. So now we have little Watsons running around.
Thanks for the info on Watson, Stargazer, in your prior post. I have followed the Manson case for many years. I really appreciate your post.
Mb - Well, that was a good poem even if you wrote it at 3 am! See how gifted you are?
I don't think you're in a minority in your Kennedy dislikes. My father-in-law was teaching medicine at Harvard when Ted Kennedy cheated on his Spanish test. (He had another kid take the test for him.) I didn't realize till recently with all the Ted K coverage that he was expelled for it. Anyway, my father-in-law really disliked the Kennedys.
There has been a lot that's come out, probably a lot of it true, on stuff they've done. I guess they were fakes. There are tapes or transcripts I've heard or read of JFK not wanting to put the Civil Rights bill into action, and him using the "N" word. That was really terrible, I thought. He has been so glorified about that bill, and I was shocked to hear him talk like that. And Old Joe bootlegging, Gloria Swanson & him, messing up his ambassadorship to the Court of St. James and FDR not liking him too much, and his outrageous cheating when he was with the stock exchange to make part of his fortune. There's a lot of negativity in the family.
With all those undercurrents, usually I'd dislike them and just not read on them anymore. But what they publicly were and what they stood for, I lived thru those years. And I remember. I remember the days of the funeral and my mother crying, attached to the television. The echo of the horses clip-clopping, the one riderless horse with the spurs turned backward, the salute of JFK jr., Oswald's death suddenly thrown in the midst, then just a few years later Martin Luther King's assassination, then Bobby Kennedy. Then Ted being Patriarch of the family all these years, despite his own inner sorrows.
The negative stuff seems to go on the intellectual side of me. But the Camelot years and stuff is on the emotional side of me. I wonder how many others feel like this?
Twinsrwe, thank you so much for posting a current picture of Charles Manson. OMG! I would not have known who he was. I've only seen him with the long hair and beard in old interviews they still rerun on tv.
