Lizzie Borden Society Forum

This one is for rent! Great water view on North Main ST.

Also on North Main, an unusual brick house now owned by the Catholic Diocese.

Charles Shove house on High, built 1850- I think this is the same Charles that was Ellen Shove's father. Ellen, being one of Lizzie's Grand Tour companions. I was picturing Lizzie visiting Ellen here, getting ready for the trip and getting a good look at how they lived on The Hill !

The old Hooper house on French, on the corner. Looks like the Adams Family should live here. It's in pretty bad shape, but I see there seems to be some siding going up- right over the bad wood! It must have been amazing 100 years ago!

Here's a funny little commercial building for rent just diagonally across the street from Maplecroft- an odd place to find this.

Shelley @ Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:53 pm wrote:Here's a funny little commercial building for rent just diagonally across the street from Maplecroft- an odd place to find this.

Lizzie would probably have it torn down or moved!!!

We were a little perplexed at the location of this building just right across from Maplecroft and that big Adams family mansion.

If you stand on Maplecroft's steps and look diagonally to the left across the street, you will see this little building. Maybe we can investigate further Saturday morning? The big old "Adams Family" house on the corner of French and Highland used to be the Hooper house.

I remember the first time I saw the Hooper house. I thought...My hell, it's 1313 Mockingbird Lane ! I was tempted to knock on their door and see if Lurch would answer.





Tracy...

"You Rang?"- Oh yes! I have thought the same thing. I wish they would get the siding on that place!

yes we could investigate further. I also found the name of the reporter Mr.
Manning and made a list of people we haven't found that still could be here
as well as ones I have eliminated. I also looked up the names of the jurors in case some me be buried at one of the 2 cemetaries.

Shelley @ Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:53 pm wrote:Here's a funny little commercial building for rent just diagonally across the street from Maplecroft- an odd place to find this.

323 FRENCH ST

Owner
 COTE ENTERPRISES LLC
City
 FALL RIVER
 
State
 MA
Address
 302 HIGHLAND AVE
Zip
 02720
 
Sale Date
 9/28/2001
Sale Price
 139,900
Grantor(Seller)
 COTE ENTERPRISES LLC

Year
 2007
Building Value
 162,100
 
 
Xtra Features Value
 0
Land Area
 0.146 acres
Land Value
 125,800
 
 
Total Value
 287,900


Narrative Description


This property contains 0.146 acres of land mainly classified as ONE FAMILY H with a(n) CONVENT`NL style building, built about 1940 , having WOOD SHING exterior and ASPHALT SH roof cover, with 1 unit(s), 8 total room(s), 3 total bedroom(s), 1 total bath(s), 0 total half bath(s), 0 total 3/4 bath(s).
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Whomever they are, they also own 302 Highland and 268 Highland. The latter address is an office building.
The former looks like one too.

Was 323 ever a medical/dental office ? I parked there the first time I saw Maplecroft.





Tracy...

In 1946 FRCD I find Francis E. Sullivan at 323 French Street.

Also, 1946 FRCD I find Herman David at 306 French Street. Never heard of him!

The site www.zillow.com can provide info. Or the site for MLS (which may not be available to ordinary people).
Those Second Empire mansions used to symbolize a haunted house denote the ruined or failed millionaires from the late 19th century.
Getting rich quick they would spend a fortune on a big mansion. When they lost it to bigger crooks, it would deteriorate. Examples?

I've never seen them, but I once read that the Coal Mine Owners of Scranton PA also built big houses that decayed when they fell on hard times. They said they would get a 40% yearly return on their investments from squeezing money from their workers who lived in what were small shacks (company housing). Ever visit that museum near Antracite country?

Once a private home on the corner of Lincoln and Highland, this magnificent enormous house is now the Women's Center of the Highlands.

I am hoping the Foster -Stafford House on Grove and Locust is the same Mr. Stafford whose tombstone is a replica of his mill! This is now condos. Fabulous old place, nicely maintained with NO aluminum siding.

The date on the sign is 1874.

Shelley @ Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:19 am wrote:Once a private home on the corner of Lincoln and Highland, this magnificent enormous house is now the Women's Center of the Highlands.

That's a beauty, Shelley. I believe it was the home of Sarah S. Brayton.

Oh Cool Har! I love those comparisons.
That's a nifty house!

BTW: I bet that "David" family are the ones who removed the *middle bar* of the Borden B at Maplecroft to make it a D!

The rain yesterday gave all the Painted Ladies on Rock Street a sparkle. I treated myself to a new digital camera for my birthday and made a slide show at the link below. The historical society Victorian garden was exquisite after the rain. I did not realize Jefferson Borden had 2 residences in Fall River- this was his second address:

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Thanks MB. The extra dimension you give and the insights, are valuable.

I have never much cared for the High Street house- looks like a mini White House with all those columns. I wish I had thought to photograph so many of the Hill houses before the home "unimprovements" and I really regret not taking photos of the old city hall when I had the chance. But- I'm making up for lost time now before anything else gets "improved". I love the idea of the mill-style architecture. There was a sign about an order of nuns on the property and I wonder if the Jeff Borden house is not part of a convent or something? I was in a hurry or would have knocked on the door- not being shy you see! He who hesitates is lost!

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I've been having fun tooning Lizzie's houses & I thought I'd go ahead & do all of them.

(MB, I hope you don't mind getting tooned!)

Note, much artistic license used. Was too lazy to include Hooper's next door. Yes, the house is not & prob never has been purple, but the color from the picture this was lifted from would have come out as a dark blob.
So, I did a "painted lady". Unfortunately, my current program I use to toon doesn't do a shingle texture (my MAC did).

WOW! Good one TK! Thanks!

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Love all these old houses. It's a good thing I'm not a termite: If I were, I'd eat 'em all up!

mbhenty @ Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:31 pm wrote:

Love the color.

Will be painting my house in the next year. If this was the late 60s I would go for it, purple.

Imagine your neighbors' reaction

I'm disappointed you're not going to go for the purple (just kidding!)

Look forward to seeing what you do.

Well, it was bound to happen. My great passions in the city are #92, Oak Grove Cemetery and city architecture, so having "blogged" the first two, it was only a matter of time until Painted Ladies debuted. Someday I hope to get a color booklet out of these gingerbread gems, but for now, I wanted a place to collect the photos I have been making for a few years. I know there are some old house fans here too, so I hope you will enjoy this site as much as I enjoy writing it.

www.fallriverpaintedladies.wordpress.com

Thanks for all the pictures!
I don't know where you find the time!

Things are quiet at the house this time of year- and I am an admitted insomniac with 3 websites and 8 blogs. But, I guess there are WORSE vices!

What are your other Blogs?

http://fallriverpaintedladies.wordpress.com
http://oakgrovecemetery.wordpress.com
http://sanctaflora.wordpress.com
http://tisconvention2008.wordpress.com
http://titanicinternational.wordpress.com
http://secondstreetirregulars.wordpress.com
http://stauri.wordpress.com/
http://rhodeislandaltars.wordpress.com (still building)
and another one for a friend which is ready to launch

websites:
www.revdma2.com (Titanic)
www.staugustineuri.com
www.titanicinternationalsociety.org
Keeps me out of the bars

OMG! Have you ever heard of Ambien?
I've looked at a few of your slide shows today- very nice!

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Hmm- I see what you are saying. Well, I bought the postcard last year on ebay for 5 dollars and it has "Fall River High School" on the bottom of it. I also checked the Keeley Library photo archive and it looks like the same one there. So I am sure this is the correct building. I am at a loss to explain the angle and terrain though. . .

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I wonder if the photographer reversed the negative? A lot of these cards were actually printed in England or Germany. Now I need to go lie down in the middle of June Street and "get the lay of the land"!

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Here is the link to School pictures from Keeley Library:
http://www.sailsinc.org/Durfee/fallriver.htm#schools

And here is a link to Phillips History of Fall River, vol. 3 as download.
Go to almost the very bottom of the page to find Vol. 3.
http://www.sailsinc.org/Durfee/fulltext.htm

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Now- if all mysteries were as easily solved.

For those who love the Painted Ladies, last Saturday was a beautiful sunny day for photography so I took a drive up and down Highland Avenue from south to north and snapped some of the gorgeous homes on both sides of the street. The one at the top of the post is now owned by the Catholic Diocese and is a beautiful mansard roof Victorian. Others on the north end of the avenue date a little later on. Leaving town, the Central Congregational Church was positively gleaming in the sunlight. This church and the Academy Bldg in the Borden Block have got to be my favorite non-residential buildings in the city. Both were designed by Hartwell and Swasey. Hartwell Street, which is just around the corner from Second Street must have been named for this architect who did so many designs for the city. Of course the Academy Building has become residential, but originally housed a theatre. It is a stone's throw from #92 Second St. The large brick building with Adams House sign on the lawn is the former Old Folks Home which Andrew Borden was planning to include in his will as a benefactor. It is now a very high-end nursing home. There are so many photos, I had to make a slide presentation which, if this sort of thing is of interest, can be seen at the Fall River Painted Lady link below.

Thank you for sharing that, Shelley---it was delightful! Felt as tho I was taking a bike ride & feasting my eyes!

I was practically taking a bike ride while making it! I think the slide.com formatting is perfect for these sorts of projects.

With snow coming tomorow, it seemed like a good time to put up the Painted Ladies of Winter Street tonight. I just found this street by accident while hunting up the corner of Linden and Locust where Officer Medley (Chief of Police by then in 1917)was mortally wounded in a car accident. I turned onto Winter Street and was delighted to find a nearly pristine street full of Victorian homes, with only rare modern encroachment here and there on the facades- amazing to see!

Thanks again, Shelley---you give us so many goodies!

The fire escapes are a shame, tho I suppose that's the price paid when the houses become apts, & if the houses hadn't become apts, chances are they would not have survived at all.

One thing I really like about Fall River is that so many houses have been pretty much preserved in their original state (at least on the exterior). In my town so many that survived have been extensively altered.