Lizzie Borden Society Forum

So what are you all doing for Halloween?

I have no need for a costume this year. I keep the sign on my apartment door all year round "The witch is in."

I remember the year I used Queen Helene's Mint Julip Mask to create green, rotting flesh for a zombie effect on my cousin Michael. He turned into a CPA anyway.

Lee-ann and the crew at the B&B can certainly provide some inspiration. Andrew was inspiring awe from youngsters as they gazed upon his "corpse" on the sofa.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/ ... 0146-3.jpg

My friend made that for Ed....we decided he shouldn't smell like ketchup anymore.
Ed however was not the first to wear the 'wounds'. We had a visitor to the house on August 2nd who took it for a 'test drive'.
Check out www.MarvinTheMonkey.com and click on the map for New England. This little guy gets around!

The mask is great! What a good picture! Thanks!

http://www.MarvinTheMonkey.com/newengla ... index.html
(I'm trying to get people closer to the show in Fall River, with this link).
It's a cool site.
I wonder who wrote it?
(It has a few mistakes.)
Lee-ann looks great tho, as usual!!

Hi Marvin!

Ben

When thinking Of Lizzie and Halloween I have to wonder that if in Lizzie's time, there were any traditions or activities that went on in Fall River on Halloween. Like kids knocking on the door of Maplecroft and singing the took an axe song. Mabe dares were made to stay in Lizzie's backyard all night. I wonder if some kids went trick or treating dressed as Lizzie herself (if they did it would be something if they went to Maplecroft). If there were any such things I wonder if they are carried on today.

Lee-ann--you remind me of Uma Thurman in the photo with Marvin!

Thanks for the pic, Cynthia. I've always been curious as to what Andrew's face looked like the day of the murders, I'd have to say that that is a pretty good approximation of what it looked like. No wonder why Dr. Bowen was sickened to look at him that way.

I've been trying to find out when the regular "trick or treat" as we know it, came into being.
I've looked in older newspapers, and there seems to be a point when the phrase shows up in there as c. 1947, as "tricks or treats." (Note the plural).
The merchants were decrying the youngsters doing malicious damage to their storefronts, especially their windows, during Halloween in urban areas. This was in the Washington Post.
The item I found was an idea put out to involve these merchants in the doings of the night- promoting soaping of their plate glass in a contest atmosphere giving prizes for the best soap drawings. The idea also was to have a parade and a dance or whatever- to channel the energies of the young people away from damage and towards recreation and socializing.
They mention that the city has a different experience of tricks or treats than do rural areas.
1947 is the earliest I could find actual references to tricks or treats, tho they all call it an older tradition. They called it "the old prankster's threat."
I know if "trick or treat" is Googled, you will find the *origins* in Druid ceremonies and animal and human sacrifice is explained as part of that tradition.

Trying to find the modern version was hard. It seems like in this country, in 1950 this was written about more in the papers. Before '47 tho, there's not much, and I don't know why. I checked the Boston Globe and The Washington Post.

OK Here you go! A link for the history of Trick or Treat:
http://www.theholidayspot.com/halloween ... _treat.htm

Fascinating!
But I doubt there were any trick or treaters at Maplecroft. The kids gave it a wide berth. The taunting song was done like a test of courage. They may have rung the bell and ran, though.

Gramma

Thanks for the link. It did address the modern culture of "trick or treat" which I was wondering about:
"The term 'trick or treat,' finally appears in print around 1939!"

I was close, at 1947!
Interesting!