What 'Lizzie' books do you own?

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:09 pm

I have most (if not all) of them.

Lizzie Borden, the untold story by Radin.
Lizzie Borden Sourcebook by Kent.
Rebello's Borden Bible... Lizie Borden, Past & Present.
Trial of Lizzie Borden, Pearson.
Lizzie Didn't Do It, Masterson
Did Lizzie Borden Axe For It, Rehak
40 Whacks, Kent
Proceedings.
The Fall Rover Tragedy (bound), Porter.
Lizzie, Spiering
The Girl in the House of Hate, Samuels
Brown's Lizzie Borden the Legend, the truth the Final Chapter.
Geary's 'comic strip' book about the case
Goodbye Lizzie Borden, Sullivan
A Private Disgrace, Lincoln.
Flynn's Bibliography of The Borden Murders

I also have some of the fiction books...

Evan Hunter and Sattwewait

As well as some of the books that devote chapters to the case..

The Cases that Haunt Us.
The Most Evil Women in History.

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:15 pm

stuartwsa · Post by **stuartwsa** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:16 pm

I have just about all the same ones, except that my copy of "The Girl In the House Of Hate" fell apart many years back.
I never had a copy of the Rehak, and I'm missing a few of the more off the beaten path books, like Muriel Arnold's book.
I may have gotten rid of a couple of the novels on the case (Evan Hunter, Elizabeth Engestrom), simply because I couldn't stand them.

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:27 pm

I have several of those...still missing a few though. I try to add to my collection whenever I get the chance.

Tracy...

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:02 pm

Lizzie Borden Sourcebook - David Kent
Lizzie Borden, Past & Present- Leonard Rebello
Lizzie - Frank Spiering
Lizzie Didn't Do it - William Masterton
A Private Disgrace - Victoria Lincoln
Slaughter On Second Street - David Kent
The Borden Tragedy - Rick Geary
Lizzie Borden The Legend, the Truth, and Final Chapter - Arnold Brown
The Cases that Haunt Us - John Douglas, Mark Olshaker
The Witness Statements - Purchased from the B&B gift shop in 2000.

I had some books that I've loaned to 'friends' that I have just never gotten back or I'd have more.

Wordweaver · Post by **Wordweaver** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:17 pm

Audrey @ Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:09 pm wrote:I have most (if not all) of them.

I have and use these:
Lizzie Borden: A Case Book of Family and Crime in the 1890's by Williams
Lizzie Borden: a dance of death by Agnes De Mille
Yesterday in Old Fall River: A Lizzie Borden Companion by Paul Dennis Hoffman
Lizzie Borden, the untold story by Radin.
Lizzie Borden Sourcebook by Kent.
Rebello's Borden Bible... Lizie Borden, Past & Present.
Trial of Lizzie Borden, Pearson.
Lizzie Didn't Do It, Masterson
Did Lizzie Borden Axe For It, 2d ed. Rehak
Proceedings.
The Fall River Tragedy, Porter.
Lizzie, Spiering
Brown's Lizzie Borden the Legend, the truth the Final Chapter
Goodbye Lizzie Borden, Sullivan
A Private Disgrace, Lincoln

Have ordered and am eagerly awaiting all past issues of the Hatchet on CD, and I'm also eager for the upcoming Chaney book

Still looking for:
Knowlton Papers (I can't spend $475 for it)
Lizzie Borden: The hands of time by Muriel Arnold
Past issues of the LB Quarterly
40 Whacks, Kent (have read and taken extensive notes about a library copy)
The Girl in the House of Hate, Samuels
Flynn's Bibliography of The Borden Murders

I've read the plays and novels:
Lizzie Borden, by Elizabeth Engstrom
Lizzie by Evan Hunter
Goodbye, Miss Lizzie Borden, by Lillian De La Torre

I suppose I should pick up Rick Geary's graphic novel.

Edited to add Oops,forgot Angela Carter. And Philips. And of course the huge mass of trial transcripts, etc., available online here, which I use all the time, and the archives, which are seriously illuminating.

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:59 pm

Lincoln's
Brown's
Spiering's
Radin's (pocket book)

-1bigsteve (o:

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:43 am

Wordweaver @ Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:17 pm wrote:
Audrey @ Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:09 pm wrote:I have most (if not all) of them.
I have and use these:
Lizzie Borden: A Case Book of Family and Crime in the 1890's by Williams
Lizzie Borden: a dance of death by Agnes De Mille
Yesterday in Old Fall River: A Lizzie Borden Companion by Paul Dennis Hoffman
Lizzie Borden, the untold story by Radin.
Lizzie Borden Sourcebook by Kent.
Rebello's Borden Bible... Lizie Borden, Past & Present.
Trial of Lizzie Borden, Pearson.
Lizzie Didn't Do It, Masterson
Did Lizzie Borden Axe For It, 2d ed. Rehak
Proceedings.
The Fall River Tragedy, Porter.
Lizzie, Spiering
Brown's Lizzie Borden the Legend, the truth the Final Chapter
Goodbye Lizzie Borden, Sullivan
A Private Disgrace, Lincoln

Have ordered and am eagerly awaiting all past issues of the Hatchet on CD, and I'm also eager for the upcoming Chaney book

Still looking for:
Knowlton Papers (I can't spend $475 for it)
Lizzie Borden: The hands of time by Muriel Arnold
Past issues of the LB Quarterly
40 Whacks, Kent (have read and taken extensive notes about a library copy)
The Girl in the House of Hate, Samuels
Flynn's Bibliography of The Borden Murders

I've read the plays and novels:
Lizzie Borden, by Elizabeth Engstrom
Lizzie by Evan Hunter
Goodbye, Miss Lizzie Borden, by Lillian De La Torre

I suppose I should pick up Rick Geary's graphic novel.

Edited to add Oops,forgot Angela Carter. And Philips. And of course the huge mass of trial transcripts, etc., available online here, which I use all the time, and the archives, which are seriously illuminating.

O LA LA!

I see a few to add to my list in your post!

I will not spend over $475 for the Knowlton papers either!

Anyone with any opinions about just how much they are worth???

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:45 am

Oops!

I forgot to add the source documents available here as well...

I also have every issus of The Hatchet published-- but nothing from before that as far as The Quarterly or anything like that.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:20 am

Allen @ Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:02 pm wrote:Lizzie Borden Sourcebook - David Kent
Lizzie Borden, Past & Present- Leonard Rebello
Lizzie - Frank Spiering
Lizzie Didn't Do it - William Masterton
A Private Disgrace - Victoria Lincoln
Slaughter On Second Street - David Kent
The Borden Tragedy - Rick Geary
Lizzie Borden The Legend, the Truth, and Final Chapter - Arnold Brown
The Cases that Haunt Us - John Douglas, Mark Olshaker
The Witness Statements - Purchased from the B&B gift shop in 2000.

I had some books that I've loaned to 'friends' that I have just never gotten back or I'd have more.

Well if we are adding the source documents that are available on the site, then I would like to add those to my list as well. As well as several newspaper articles and the like.

There are several books I either want to reclaim, or buy. I'd like to have them all someday.

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:30 am

I purchased nearly every one of the books via eBay.

My Rebello was purchased as a gift for me direcly from Mr. Rebello. I also received Proceedings, The Fall River Tragedy, The Trial of Lizzie Borden and Rehak's books as gifts.

ebay is a good source for the books at a decent price.

Walmart.com is also a good source for some of the books and as always you can use a walmart shopping card if you do not wish to use a CC over the Net.

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:59 am

WOW!!! COOL AUDREY, NICE COLLECTION. I SEE YOU HAVE A RADIN PAPERBACK. THEY'RE HARDER TO FIND THAN THE HARDCOVER COPIES. ALSO A COPY OF BROWN'S BOOK, COOL. LOVE CHECKING OUT OTHER PEOPLE'S COLLECTIONS.

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:06 am

HEY AUDREY, THERE'S A "FINE" COPY OF KNOWLTON PAPERS ON EBAY, STARTING BID 75 DOLLARS. THE ONLY BAD THING ABOUT IT IS, I MAY BE BIDDING ON IT. LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE GOING AFTER IT?

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:08 am

I will not knowlingly bid on something a fellow forum member is bidding on.

However, if you do bid and become outdib and have no intention of bidding further-- let me know.

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:16 am

Of course, I have been collecting for many years, and still picking up items here and there.

Being a "book NUT".............no, no, being a "NUT".------ I have too many to list my copies. I have a sprinkle of duplicates and some of the British counterparts. For instance, just picked up a copy of Radins book, but the British edition. Slight different dust jacket, about quater inch taller. Radin, in both the English and American editions does not have an exciting cover. The best of his 3 edition covers is the paperback that Audrey displays.

I would add that I have roughly 75 to 80 Lizzie bindings in my collection.

COOL

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:25 am

Thanks Audrey, very kind of you. I already have a copy but wanted a second reading copy. I'm a Gemini you know?

Probably a good chance at getting it for a deal. But I will step aside, you go for it................I'm not that greedy unless it's cheese cake.

But if you do bid, and decide to drop out, let me know. I may be willing to pay more. As it looks now the only bidder looks like a dealer. Don't let this one get away, expecially if it goes for under 75 bucks or so, you never know>>>>. Thanks Audrey

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:22 am

Oops, just took a better look at the knowlton book. Noticed that he has a reserve on it, and gauging by his other items he's not giving anything away, that's for sure; afraid the Knowlton book is going at a high reserve.

Also, I would not buy from a seller who is trying to rip me off on the postage. It should not cost more than 7 or 8 dollars to mail that book, 10 tops. You may feel you got the book for a deal, but he's ripping you off on postage. Too bad........

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:30 am

Hey Allen, don't lend your babies out to anyone. They are treasures that will only come back violated, or as you said, not come back at all.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:03 am

Audrey, I noticed you were missing the several Pearsons, Hoffman, de Mille, Arnold, and no one has mentioned the Silveria. (Don't bother tho!)

Phillips has a Lizzie chapter also. We have that set.
And the Victorian Vistas and Casebook, Sourcebook and Did She or Didn't She Evening Standard oversized book.
I noticed you had Sourcebook but left it off your list.

We can add the radio plays, and the printed plays- 4 of them. And we should count the videos as well, I think.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:06 am

I think a Knowlton is worth about $150.

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:24 am

Kat @ Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:06 am wrote:I think a Knowlton is worth about $150.

That is good to know... I would like to have it-- But don't want to pay more than it is worth!

I know the value of it depends on demand and the desire of the person doing the purchasing... But value the opinion of those I trust as to how much it might be worth to me.

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:36 am

I paid $120something for my Knowlton...I think that you would be hard pressed to end up with one for less than $100.

Tracy...

RayS · Post by **RayS** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:26 pm

I learned long ago that my library has a bigger budget and more storage than I will ever have. Collecting books? Ok, but more important is to rate them on a 1 to 5 scale, and explain the reasons why (50 words or less).
Anyone?

P.S. Shouldn't you be reading them as well?

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:52 pm

Collectors are an Odd group of people. Should we be reading what we collect, perhaps.......but to a collector that is secondary, at least in principle.

You don't collect stamps, then start pasting them to envolopes and send them through the post.

You don't collect coins, then take them and pay your gas bill. Or collect sports memorabilia, and use them in a game...

You don't collect rare wine and drink it all up in a short time, if at all.

Why should we collect books and read them? Makes little sense now does it not?

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:29 pm

mbhenty @ Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:06 pm wrote:HEY AUDREY, THERE'S A "FINE" COPY OF KNOWLTON PAPERS ON EBAY, STARTING BID 75 DOLLARS. THE ONLY BAD THING ABOUT IT IS, I MAY BE BIDDING ON IT. LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE GOING AFTER IT?

$75.00, one bid and the reserve has not yet been met. I noticed the shipping is $25.00 (I can guess where they are going to be making their money) and there is no insurance offered.

I hope you can get it, Michael.

-1bigsteve (o:

doug65oh · Post by **doug65oh** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:37 pm

"Why should we collect books and read them? Makes little sense now does it not?"

Not sure about how sensible it is, but...why not? I'm actually working my way presently - albeit slowly - thru a full set of Harvard Classics which is...97 years old. I have a small complete Shakespeare volume also that I read occasionally...about 125 years old that one is. I keep them well...so...why not put 'em to use? Elsewise they're mere fodder for worms.

Nick Basbanes had it right in his book on collecting of several years ago: The love of books is a madness true, but it be a gentle one, fair and soft as an evening's dew.

(The book and its title were his - the schlock verse there is mine.)

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:50 pm

RayS @ Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:26 pm wrote:I learned long ago that my library has a bigger budget and more storage than I will ever have. Collecting books? Ok, but more important is to rate them on a 1 to 5 scale, and explain the reasons why (50 words or less).
Anyone?

P.S. Shouldn't you be reading them as well?

I come from a long line of conspicuous consumers....

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:27 pm

That sounds Great doug65oh: Funny you sould mention Basbanes' book. (EVERY BOOK ITS READER) I just picked up his latest, and it is still in a bag in my car. I have all of Nick Basbanes books. I have a small collection of books about books.

Books about bookbinding, collecting, bookstores, libraries, etc.

Of course I jest when I ask, why read the books in your collection? But if you collect a lot your intention is to read them all, but in one life time that is unrealistic .........

RayS · Post by **RayS** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:49 am

Audrey @ Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:09 pm wrote:I have most (if not all) of them.

Lizzie Borden, the untold story by Radin.
Lizzie Borden Sourcebook by Kent.
Rebello's Borden Bible... Lizie Borden, Past & Present.
Trial of Lizzie Borden, Pearson.
Lizzie Didn't Do It, Masterson
Did Lizzie Borden Axe For It, Rehak
40 Whacks, Kent
Proceedings.
The Fall Rover Tragedy (bound), Porter.
Lizzie, Spiering
The Girl in the House of Hate, Samuels
Brown's Lizzie Borden the Legend, the truth the Final Chapter.
Geary's 'comic strip' book about the case
Goodbye Lizzie Borden, Sullivan
A Private Disgrace, Lincoln.
Flynn's Bibliography of The Borden Murders

I also have some of the fiction books...

Evan Hunter and Sattwewait

As well as some of the books that devote chapters to the case..

The Cases that Haunt Us.
The Most Evil Women in History.

It is my recollection that you never quote from them, or show knowledge of their contents.
What do the others say?

RayS · Post by **RayS** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:50 am

Audrey @ Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:15 pm wrote:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/ ... C00008.jpg

This appears to be an amateur's snapshot, and one that has nothing in the picture to tie it to anyone. Do we agree?

RayS · Post by **RayS** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:51 am

But can you also report on them, and give them a ranking?

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:04 pm

[quote="RayS @ Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:51 am"]But can you also report on them, and give them a ranking?

I have a good book for you to read, Ray. You can also do a report on it. It's called "How to Win Friends and Influence People."

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:30 pm

To anyone with artistic vision would love the way Audrey set up her display for public viewing.

I don't know the girl, but I know this. It may have not taken much time, but it did take some insight to set up her display, and I for one can see that thought avenue which flows and shows well in the photo. She didn't just throw them into the shot. I find myself going back to it sevral times and commenting to myself how nice it looks.

I have a large coffee table book which shows the many ways people choose to display their collections. In it are a couple of shots very similar to Audreys. Though she may have hastly set it up just for the forum shot, it was done well; and if one throws in some dried flowers, a couple of sea shells, and a photo of her dog and some ribbon, it would make a wonderful permanent display.

LOVE YOUR PICTURE AUDREY, WELL DONE.

BELLE

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:43 pm

mbhenty @ Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:30 pm wrote:To anyone with artistic vision would love the way Audrey set up her display for public viewing.

I don't know the girl, but I know this. It may have not taken much time, but it did take some insight to set up her display, and I for one can see that thought avenue which flows and shows well in the photo. She didn't just throw them into the shot. I find myself going back to it sevral times and commenting to myself how nice it looks.

I have a large coffee table book which shows the many ways people choose to display their collections. In it are a couple of shots very similar to Audreys. Though she may have hastly set it up just for the forum shot, it was done well; and if one throws in some dried flowers, a couple of sea shells, and a photo of her dog and some ribbon, it would make a wonderful permanent display.

LOVE YOUR PICTURE AUDREY, WELL DONE. BELLE

Right on Michael!

In the art world we call that "natural composition." It looks natural and because of that it is pleasing to the eye. Books lined up all in a row like soldiers looks boring and lifeless. Ever see trees lined up "perfectly" in a forest? I rest my case.

Looks real good to me, Audrey!

-1bigsteve (o:

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:22 pm

1bigsteve: Thanks steve. The book of life is brief, and once a page is read, all but love is dead.

I always found that a great lyric. I seen him do that song at the Ziterion Theater in New Bedford MA. Beautifully done. It was late in his career and the Theater was half empty. You could tell he was annoyed about something. When the concert was done and he walked off stage, everyone waited and waited, but finally the lights went on and sadly he never came out to do "VINCENT" which I was sure he was leaving for last. (Though he said Perry Como's version is the popular one and the one that made all the money.) I dare say that song could bring a tear to any man no matter what his size especially Don's version.

Wordweaver · Post by **Wordweaver** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:39 pm

mbhenty @ Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:22 pm wrote: he never came out to do "VINCENT" which I was sure he was leaving for last. (Though he said Perry Como's version is the popular one and the one that made all the money.)

Perry Como did a version of "Vincent"? And it sold better than Don McLean's?

Lord, send me Lizzie and an axe. I'm not getting very far bashing my head against the wall.

I love Don McLean, too, and his songs mean a lot to me. They're linked with my early years of college. Oh, for the days of the mid-1970s, when I was a skinny little thing just exploring the world and falling in love and doing all the things that 17-year-olds do.

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:52 pm

My nephew did a freehand chalk of Starry Night, and at first I thought it was a reprint of the van Gogh it looked so good...He was just gonna toss it in a corner..I said LIKE HELL YOU ARE !...and I brought it home. I could just 'see' that song as I stared at my nephew's artwork. It is going to be professionally framed and hang in my living room.

Tracy...

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:24 pm

Thanks wordweaver: Did not think anyone but steve would of been interested, so did not make myself clear, sorry.

I meant the song "And I Love You So," by Don Mclean. He wrote the song and played it on his album, but it was the Perry Como version that became a hit. Had no choice but to watch the Perry Como show when I was a lad. It was what was on TV when I was little. I would get up in the middle of the night and sneak into the livingroom where Mom and Dad would be watching Late TV. It was Perry Como or the Red Skelton Show. (reason I laugh at my own jokes) In the morning they would find me sleeping and hiding on the floor by the side of the sofa.

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:15 pm

You mean there are fans of Don Mclean out there? Let's party!

I heard "American Pie" on the radio, when it came out, so often I got to the point of hating it and the singer with a passion. Years later I heard "Vincent" on the radio and wondered who sang that beautiful song. A few years later I discovered Shirley Bassey and on her "Live at Carnegie Hall" double album she blow's the bloody fool out of "And I Love You So" and mentions the song writer, Don Mclean. The name did not ring a bell but the song took my breath away. I said to myself "I got to get some of this guy's stuff" and when I looked for his records up came his "American Pie" record and I thought, "Oh, this guy sang that Pie song!!?? I flipped the cover over and there was "Vincent." I fell in love with this guy's stuff. My attitude about him changed completely. I love his song "Everybody Love's Me Baby, What's Wrong With You?" I still don't like "American Pie."

I went through the same routine with Burt Bacharach. Heard his shlucky stuff on the radio in the 60's so often I thought I'd puke! One day Judy Collins told me about a big-voiced singer I might like named Judy Henske. Next day I found one of her albums and loved her song, "Any Day Now (My Wild and Beautiful Bird)." I flipped it over and it said Burt Bacharach. So I changed my attitude about him too. I recently told Judy that I had that album and she rolled her eyes back in her head and told me to throw it out the window and let a truck run over it. She hates it.

Same thing happened with Georgia Brown. Did not like her cold eyes and did not think she could have a warm voice but when I finally bought her record my whole attitude changed, big time. I guess it does not pay to pass judgement on people too quickly. Who we hate today we may love tomorrow.

I understand what you mean, Michael, when you talk about Don McLean being "annoyed" about something. I saw Bonnie Raitt come out on stage, plop herself on the stool and, without saying a thing to the crowd, she starts playing a droll song. She warmed up as the show went on but I guess it was not her night. I was expecting Lacy J. Dalton but Bonnie showed up instead.

We know what Lizzie liked to read but I wonder what she would think of today's music. My grandmother grew up in Lizzie's day and loved Herb Alpert, Tom Jones, Elvis Presley. Thats a far cry from the "parlor music" of 100+ years back. I can just see Lizzie tapping her foot to some of today's big numbers. Who know's, she may just get up and dance a little jig.

-1bigsteve (o:

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:09 pm

Hey Steve:
Do you mean the "Judy Collins" Judy Collins, who sent in the clowns? Wow. Cool. I had a couple of her albums.

Yes loved Don Mclean. Started listening to him right from the start. Of course my favorite stuff is never the popular songs. My favorite song by Don Mclean was "The Grave"

"The grave that they dug him had flowers, gathered from the hillside in bright summer colors, and the brown earth bleached white at the edge of his gravestone, he's gone, but eternity knows him, and it knows what we've done, And the rain fell like pearls on the leaves of the flowers, leaving brown muddy clay, where the earth was once dry, and deep in a trench he waited for hours, as he held to his rifle, and prayed not to die.....................Wooooe, sends shivers. Was always into lyrics.

At the same time I was listening to Harry Chapin. Loved his off chart stuff, such as, Sniper, The Rock, and Little BL---- Bummer. He was great live also. I seen him just before he was killed in a car accident.

And as for Herb Albert, I have his CD within arms reach. "Blow Your Own Horn" Great dancing music. Best when your alone.

Great fun Steve...

Fargo · Post by **Fargo** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:46 am

I have

The Lizzie Borden Axe Murder Trial - by Axelrod Contrada.
Lizzie Borden A Case book of Family and Crime in the 1890's - by Williams.
Lizzie Borden A Dance of Death - by De mille.
The Preliminary Hearing in the Lizzie Borden Case.
The Trial of Lizzie Andrew Borden Book one.
The Trial of Lizzie Andrew Borden Book two.
The Trial of Lizzie Andrew Borden Book three, all by Harry, Stefani and Kat.
The Knowlton Papers - by Martins and Binette.
Lizzie Borden the Untold Story - by Radin.
The Borden Tragedy - by Geary.
Lizzie Borden and The Mysterious Axe - by Flynn.
Lizzie Didn't Do It - by Masterton.
The Borden Murder Mystery In Defense Of Lizzie Borden - by Phillips
Lizzie Borden The Hands of Time - by Arnold.
The Fall River Tragedy - by Porter.
Slaughter On Second Street (a play) - by Kent.
Lizzie Borden of Fall River (a play) - by Kelly.
Lizzie (a play) - by Haskell
Lizzie Borden A Family Portrait in Three Acts (the printed opera)- by Beason.
Lizzie Borden Did She? or Didn't She? The Evening standard - by Historical Briefs.
Lizzie - by Spiering.
A Private Disgrace - By Lincoln.
The Borden Murders An Annotated Bibliography - by Flynn.
Sherlock Holmes and the Fall River Tragedy - by Haskell.
Trial of Lizzie Borden - by Pearson.
No place Like Home (a novel) - by Clark.
Lizzie (a novel) - by Hunter
Lizzie Borden Unlocked - by Sams.
The Lizzie Borden Trial, Be the Judge be the Jury - by Rappaport.
Psychic Solutions the Lizzie Borden Case - by Senate.
Miss Lizzie (a novel) - by Satterthwait.
Did Lizzie Borden Axe for it? - by Rehak.
Forty Whacks (a novel) - by Macgill.
Lizzie Borden Sourcebook - by Kent.
Lizzie Borden A Study in Conjecture - by Belloc Lowndes.
The Trial of Lizzie Borden - by Henderson.
Forty Whacks - by Kent.
Goodbye Lizzie Borden - by Sullivan.
Lizzie Borden (a novel) - by Engstrom.
Yesterday in old Fall River - by Hoffman
Lizzie Borden, The Legend, the Truth, the Final Chapter - by Brown.
The Mystery Unveiled - by Lunday.
Lizzie Borden Past and Present - by Rebello.
The Girl in the House of Hate - by Samuels.
Goodbye Miss Lizzie Borden (a play) - by De La Torre
The Proceedings book - by Ryckebusch.
Forty Whacks (a novel) - by Homes.
Double Edge (a novel) - by Etchison.
Our Lady of Fall River - by Ronan.
All issues of The Lizzie Borden Quarterly.
All issues of the Hatchet that are presently available in print.
A few other books that have chapters about the Lizzie Borden Case in them such as;
The Black Cabinet - by Lovesey.
Studies in Murder - by Pearson.
Such Women are Deadly - by Gribble.
Ghost Investigator by - Zimmerman.
Haunted Inns of New England - by Jasper.

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:38 pm

Cool Fargo: All I can say is, "NOW THERE'S A COLLECTOR."

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:14 pm

Wow. I agree with Michael. You have your own Lizzie Borden library there

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:34 pm

So...would we call that a "Lizziebrary" ?

Tracy...

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:45 pm

Fargo @ Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:46 am wrote: The Black Cabinet - by Lovesey.
Studies in Murder - by Pearson.
Such Women are Deadly - by Gribble.
Ghost Investigator by - Zimmerman.
Haunted Inns of New England - by Jasper.

I'm curious to know whether or not the Haunted Inns of New England has many details about the case, or is it just ghost stories connected with the house and nothing else? I bought the National Registry of Haunted Places because the B&B was listed in there. I noticed there isn't a whole lot about the case, just right to the ghost stories. There really aren't even a whole lot of those. I was disappointed. I also think it's odd not to include more background on the case these stories are supposedly based on, but maybe that's just my opinion.

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:59 pm

Once again I do not have all the facts about this, but remember reading about this in the Fall River Herald News many years ago.

When Lizzie died, (and I should go look this up, but my recliner is stuck open) she left quite a bit of money to the Fall River Rescue for Animals on Durfee Street. Just to the south of that building was a house. (corner of Durfee and Maple Streets) Not sure if that house was part of the Animal Rescue for animals and part of what Lizzie donated, or built with her funds, but I remember reading a story about how that house was haunted.

The person that lived there at the time said it was a friendly ghost, turning down the bed, throwing socks around etc. I need to discover how to search the Hearld News Archives, then I can tell these stories from a podium of knowledge. Alas, so much interest, so little commitment.

doug65oh · Post by **doug65oh** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:09 pm

ahem... you were saying?? ===> http://www.heraldnews.com/site/news.cfm ... cat_id=402

The archives only appear to go back seven years, however. (See "Date Range" pulldown menu for details.)

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:46 pm

Thanks Doug, yes been there, but as you say it only goes back so far..........most of what we want to search goes back much farther.

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:14 pm

mbhenty @ Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:09 pm wrote:Hey Steve:
Do you mean the "Judy Collins" Judy Collins, who sent in the clowns? Wow. Cool. I had a couple of her albums.

Yes loved Don Mclean. Started listening to him right from the start. Of course my favorite stuff is never the popular songs. My favorite song by Don Mclean was "The Grave"

"The grave that they dug him had flowers, gathered from the hillside in bright summer colors, and the brown earth bleached white at the edge of his gravestone, he's gone, but eternity knows him, and it knows what we've done, And the rain fell like pearls on the leaves of the flowers, leaving brown muddy clay, where the earth was once dry, and deep in a trench he waited for hours, as he held to his rifle, and prayed not to die.....................Wooooe, sends shivers. Was always into lyrics.

At the same time I was listening to Harry Chapin. Loved his off chart stuff, such as, Sniper, The Rock, and Little BL---- Bummer. He was great live also. I seen him just before he was killed in a car accident.

And as for Herb Albert, I have his CD within arms reach. "Blow Your Own Horn" Great dancing music. Best when your alone.

Great fun Steve...

I've never heard much of Herb Alpert's solo stuff, Michael, (my sister love's it) but his '60's stuff with the "brass band" was out of this world. I love it! I'll have to get Harry Chapin's stuff. I'm alway's discovering new singers.

I've not heard Don's "Grave" song, I'll have to pick it up. I've always felt that there are two type's of music, the stuff I love and the popular stuff.

Have you discovered Shirley Bassey? That woman can sing! She sings the fool out of, "I'd Do It All Again." She keeps building up the tempo all through the song and by the time she is through she is flying! That lady know's when to hit the throttle and she has the power to back it up. Many singers don't have real vocal power and sing like their afraid they might rip something. She and Georgia Brown were best buddies. Judy Carne said she was at Shirley's party when in walked Georgia. Everybody stopped talking. Judy said Georgia had a big presence about her. Georgia's husband was involved with the production of the original "Star Wars" movies.

Yes that's the same Judy Collins. She and Judy Henske were on Electra in the early '60's. I got all of Collin's stuff including her first album, "Maid of Constant Sorrow" 1961. She even sang a song, "Michael From Mountains" in '68, I think. Maybe she was thinking of you? Judy Henske has a voice that will blow the windshield out of your car parked across the street. She has some real nice stuff. Cher, Janis Joplin, Cass Elliot and many other singers Listened to Henske's records and tried to develop a big powerful voice like Henske's. Fortunately, Cher and Cass realized they didn't have the power and wisely decided to stay within their natural range. Janis, unfortunately, pushed her voice and ended up sounding the way she did. Judy Collins walked into a deli and noticed Janis sitting alone so she sat down with her. Judy said she looked into Janis's eyes and knew Janis was on something and realized she was not going to live much longer. Janis died a few days later. Judy Henske is a lot of fun to talk to. I start laughing just looking at her. Last time I saw her she was trying to mimic my voice. She's a gas.

I like good lyrics myself. One of my hobbies is adding or changing lyrics in popular songs. I also write poetry now and then. I'm working on a poem of Lizzie and The Black Dahlia. Their both done but I'm polishing them a bit. I've got to copyright them soon.

After seeing what Tony has got in the way of Lizzie material I'm going to have to start buying. There is so much about the case I don't know about. I love digging through these archives.

I like to think Lizzie would love my music selection.

-1bigsteve (o:

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:44 pm

Great informative post Steve:

If you like lyrics, you would probably love what I am listening to right now, (full blast in the background, I know it's late at night, but I'm the landlord) Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick. Wonderful lyrics, have no idea what he is singing about but I fully subscribe to it.........

Will need to look up Shirley Bassey and Judy Henske. Can not understand why I never heard of them. I know what you mean about the singing voice that starts strong and only gets stronger as the song wears on. Gene Pitney and Roy Orbison were great for the form.

Ma ma Cass really did have a powerful voice, but little range.
Joplin was just a sad case. She was on self destruct, a master in her field but a sad amature on life. I feel bad for her everytime I see photos of her, her and Jimmy H. As kids I remember many thinking them heros who went out in style and courage. Of course we were to live forever, so we thought.

Interesting story Steve.

I just started writing my poetry again after a 10 year break. A good friend on the forum here got me started for which I thank her. Wrote 3 of them last week. I get dressed in woman's Victorian clothing dance around the apartment with an ax a while and then I sit and start writing.

No, no, just kidding, but I may be onto something there, Naaaahhhhhh!

One more thing Steve. I was in the book store last week and in the section of new releases was a book on the BLACK DAHLIA.

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