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Michael Vick was sentenced to 23 months in prison for his role in a dogfighting conspiracy that involved gambling and killing pit bulls. Federal rules governing time off for good behavior could reduce Vick's prison stay by about three months, resulting in a summer 2009 release.

Source: http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10522587



Two of Vick's co-defendants were sentenced Nov. 30. Purnell Peace of Virginia Beach got 18 months, Quanis Phillips of Atlanta 21 months. Another co-defendant, Tony Taylor, will be sentenced Friday.

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3148549

Michael Vick's attorney Billy Martin talks about his client's sentence in the video, located in the following link:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7544 ... &GT1=10734

I think Vick deserves more than that. If it was a person, he would get the death penalty. He knowingly kills dogs and he gets less than 2 years.

When he gets out I hope he never gets a job in the NFL again

I agree, Jeff. He should have been given, at least, the maximum. Hopefully he will get an extended jail sentence come April 2nd when he will be faced with animal cruelty charges in Surry County Circuit Court.

I can't even begin to imagine why anyone could enjoy something like that........there has to be something totally off in their minds. I wonder if he had to undergo any kind of psyciatric evaluations. And if no, why not?

I can't believe he got such a light sentence. Of course that is only my opinion. This shows how little respect he has for life, if he does this to dogs, when that gets boring will he start on people?

I heard he was begging the Judge for a lighter sentence. Did Vick give those dogs a lighter "sentence?" It's a good thing I'm not a Court Judge or I'd have Vick's butt in my brief case.

-1bigsteve

Now if his menu consisted of Milkbones and water for the next two years... that...might work.

Hmmm, Milkbones and water maybe a bit too much of a luxury, Doug. Perhaps bread and water is more appropriate?

either one would work...or that cheap stuff you find at feed stores for about $20/ton.

Yep - sounds good to me!

You guys are just getting too kind. Really now.

I say put a flea collar on Vick and stake him out in the yard where he will get no shade from summer heat or warmth and shelter from the cold winter nights, feed him moldy slop and kick him around and tell him what a bad dog he is. A few years of that treatment and he may just learn a few things.

Oh well, I can dream can't I?

-1bigsteve

Well, Steve, he'd still be treated better than he treated the dogs he abused. There's nothing that says we can't dream our dreams, now is there?

I just heard on CBS news that Michael Vick is filing for bankruptcy. Lost all of his sponsors, the team wants his bonuses back, a bank is suing him for default on a loan, etc. He says he will "rebuild his life and career" after getting out. What career? Well, we reap what we sow...

This news just breaks my heart.

-1bigsteve (o:

Someone'll probably give him a book deal, au OJ. Betcha won't see an Oprah sticker on that one.
Steve, is that Susan Hayward?

DJ @ Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:52 am wrote:Someone'll probably give him a book deal, au OJ. Betcha won't see an Oprah sticker on that one.
Steve, is that Susan Hayward?

Yes David, thats Susan. Avatars get grainy when they are reduced down in size. The original looks much better.

If I remember correctly, Oprah got into some hot water a couple of years ago when she endorsed a book that turned out to be a fake. I'll bet she is extra careful now about putting her sticker on anyone's book. Atta Girl, Oprah!

You watch, Vick will probably write a book and people will actually buy it.

-1bigsteve (o:

MV was all over the news last night.
Yeah, that "Million Little Pieces" book was brought up as a topic herein, as the author of the faux story actually got another book deal.
I thought Oprah should have grilled the publisher of "MLP," which I believe was Doubleday, and which-- if I recall correctly-- had some prior knowledge that the story wasn't true. It's one thing for an author to misrepresent himself to a publisher (which you'd think would put a kibosh on him), but another for a corporate entity to knowingly misrepresent its product to the public.
In theory, anyway.
I expect Vick will show up on cheesy reality shows, after his "send the bill to the taxpayers" stay at Leavenworth is up.
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Well, here's to Susan. She certainly had an extended roll of the dice in Filmdom, going back to consideration for Scarlett O'Hara. As did Lucille Ball!

I think all of these authors ought to be screened much more closely by the publishers. Every author should prove his "facts." This kind of situation should never be allowed to happen.

I'm sure Vick will write a book and join the talk show circuit. I just wonder if he will take responsibilities for his actions or will he blame someone else? Commit a crime, do some time, write a book and makes gobs of money! Makes a lot of sense.

-1bigsteve (o:

Having had worked in animal control for about 16 years this sort of sentence is common, (remember Marjorie Knoller and the dog mauling case? She served something like 16 months.) If we are upset at the sentencing in cases like this is is up to us as citizens to contact our local humane societies, (if one is having trouble with that one could contact the Humane Society of the United States), to start lobbying for stricter local laws, writing the editors of our newspapers, and quite possibly running for public office. We can make a change if we work hard enough, it may take a while, but we can do it.

A couple of years before that case we had an organized dog fighting case in San Francisco that occurred right in the middle of the city; that is also an interesting story.

Anyways, just as an aside, in the early 1960's there was animal abuse cases on the books but nothing against child abuse. In upper state NY there was suspicion regarding child abuse and the only way to get into the house was through animal control and use suspicion of animal abuse; THEN we got laws on the books for child abuse.

Sorry for the rambling,

~B

It's so sad how twisted the minds of people can be. To value a dogs life over that of a child's is really crazy. So often the law gets in the way of justice. Crazy!

-1bigsteve (o:

1bigsteve @ Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:37 am wrote:I just heard on CBS news that Michael Vick is filing for bankruptcy. Lost all of his sponsors, the team wants his bonuses back, a bank is suing him for default on a loan, ...

And it looks as though the shirt off his back has gone to the dogs!!!

(Click on image to enlarge.)

Too bad Vick wasn't "in" the shirt.

I wish they would put him in with the dogs. With a little luck maybe he would come down with a bad case of fleas. Or better yet, mange! I'd love it if the only words Vick ever hears from his cell mate are "woof, woof!"

-1bigsteve (o:

I know what you mean, Steve; Vick should have been in the shirt - if for no other reason than to give these dogs some satisfaction!!!

1bigsteve @ Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:54 am wrote:... I'd love it if the only words Vick ever hears from his cell mate are "woof, woof!" ...

How about a "woof, woof - ERRRRRR" from this little guy???

Uh oh, he's getting out soon. Check out the story at:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3872567

I pray this jerk will never be able to get back into sports and make the millions of dollars like he did before.

Send Vick to a halfway house!!!!! and possiblility of reinstatement to the NFL!!! They shouldn't allow him anywhere. I wish they could keep him in prison longer. I say a show where dog fighting was part of a crime and couldn't believe how badly these poor animals are treated. It made me sick, and we're suppose to be the intelligent species. I can not understand how people can do this, do they have no mind or conciensce?

Vick gets out of the big house in Leavenworth soon? Please, he'll just end up getting busted at the airport or with prostitutes again. And if this scum does make it back into the NFL, it'll probably be with Mora's Seattle Seahawks.

He's out! He'll be coming soon to a football field near you.

Lock up the dogs. Unless they'll attack him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,501027,00.html

No room at the half way house so he can go home!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let him live in one of the cages where he kept the dogs. And may he never play football again. I can't stand the thought of this man.

The sad fact is, some team will probably take him, but probably not until Atlanta releases him from that contract. I can see him going to Oakland, where he'll fit right in, or to Seattle.

Vick is now (conditionally) reinstated by the NFL ?! Ok, any wagers on who'll be willing to sign him?

Yuck! You ruined my day.

Now let's see what owner will pay this jerk millions.

I just heard that on the news about his reinstatement.
Truthfully I find it disgusting they would even consider him.

I love it!
People attending the latest ceremony at the Pro Football Hall of Fame yesterday returned to their cars to find fliers on the windshields reading: Help Wanted: NFL Hires Pet Killers. Despite this, the Packers and some other teams are still interested in him.

kssunflower @ Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:37 pm wrote:I love it!
People attending the latest ceremony at the Pro Football Hall of Fame yesterday returned to their cars to find fliers on the windshields reading: Help Wanted: NFL Hires Pet Killers. Despite this, the Packers and some other teams are still interested in him.

I just wonder how long he will stay with the team that hires him before the fans of that team run him off. I can hear it now, "Hey, dog killer, how's OJ?!" He will be living with this stigma for the rest of his life. Maybe fans of the team will stop showing up and tickets sales will drop. Boo Hoo.


-1bigsteve (o:

"Quarterback Michael Vick has signed a two-year deal with the Philadelphia Eagles, his agent, Joel Segal, confirmed to ESPN.com.

..... The Eagles will hold a news conference on Friday morning to announce his signing. The first year of the deal is for $1.6 million with an option for the second year at $5.2 million. Vick can also earn an additional $3 million in incentives over the two years of the contract..."

You beat up dogs then you get out of prison to earn millions a year. Crime pays.

Lets hope the Eagle's fans don't show up.


-1bigsteve (o:

He'd better watch his step, because Philly does not put up with troublemakers. I'm disgusted that Lurie gave in and signed him.

One thing to keep in prospective here.

A guy that molests animals is very capable of molesting children.

He says he has changed.

Can't happen. If you have no sensitivity to the harming of animals--- it is highly unlikely you will acquire it.

Once a molester always a molester. He may be forced to sacrifice his desires in exchange of big money, but the killer instinct is still there.

mbhenty @ Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:08 pm wrote:

One thing to keep in prospective here.

A guy that molests animals is very capable of molesting children.

He says he has changed.

Can't happen. If you have no sensitivity to the harming of animals--- it is highly unlikely you will acquire it.

Once a molester always a molester. He may be forced to sacrifice his desires in exchange of big money, but the killer instinct is still there.

Most killers do start out killing animals then move up to molesting children then raping women then killing people. When they no longer feel the "thrill" they move on up to the next step.

-1bigsteve (o:

I agree with both of you Mb & Big Steve. He might say he has "changed" but the instinct to do harm will be there. Also I've heard that animals is the first step then children. He'll be able to hide easier because of his money, but it will continue. The should have thrown away the key.
What's going to happen when people start giving him a hard time, or the team a hard time because he's on it. How do you think he's going to vent his anger.

I always wondered about human nature. What makes a person violent. Is it something learnt, is one born with it.

Little story:

I remember many years ago working on some wiring by the side of this house. I sat on a little stool wiring this box. At my feet was this little boy, about four or five years old. He had the smoothest, whitest skin and the reddest, rosiest cheeks. He was playing with a busy colony of ants which were exiting and entering a jagged crack in the cement driveway. He would block their path with a little stick, inquisitively watch them as they scurried up the wood. He just sat there playing with these ants, humming, singing.

I remember thinking: how cute. I remembered playing in the same way. Suddenly.......as I worked I heard a big bang.

This cute little boy now held a large stone above his head and began to repeatedly crushed, squashed, mangled every little ant he could see. Then he threw down the stone and walked away. Soon after he was riding his bike up and down the driveway, making sure to revisit the ant colony and run over the ones who survived.

What was that all about?

Are some born to kill without provocation. Does man have to be taught the value of life, not to kill.

I'm sure there is a lot more to it. But it is an incident I never forgot.

Nadzieja @ Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:48 am wrote:
What's going to happen when people start giving him a hard time, or the team a hard time because he's on it. How do you think he's going to vent his anger.

When I was in Georgia and a Falcons fan, I remember at least twice when the at-home crowd angered him and he gave them the bird. That's why I say he should be careful. He's already on thin ice.

Warning! This will make you sick.

We had a horrible animal-abuse incident in New York recently. Two teenage girls, aged 14 and 19, trashed the home of a former friend and, as a joke (ha ha!), put the woman's kitten in the oven! They left hurriedly so they wouldn't hear its screams.

The younger girl (the actual culprit), got off lightly as a minor, but the older (who failed to rescue the kitten) was sentenced to some jail time (I forget how much) and forbidden to own a pet for all of three years.

You're right it makes me sick to think of it. Why did the minor get off so easily? The least they could have made her do is see a shrink, and make them clean the oven.

It could be they did. I'm a little hazy on the details. I'm sure she got a good lecture, at least. Too bad they didn't cook her.

That's a horrible thing to have said. Of course I'm kidding (but not by much).

There's a book out about what happened to the dogs that that animal, Michael Vick, abused.

It's called "The Lost Dogs" by Jim Gorant

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Dogs-Michael ... 1592405509

Thanks, Harry, this looks like a great book. Will have to see if my local Borders has it. My brother in Savannah and I were just discussing Vick last month when he was home for a visit to see KU vs Georgia Tech. He's an avid football fan and even bigger dog lover - volunteers for a pet rescue in Georgia. Neither one of us can stand to watch Vick anymore after once being big fans of his.

On a side note, I'm now reading a great dog book he recently sent me, "The Story of Edgar Sawtelle". I'm halfway through it and highly recommend.