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The Hatchet found a new Lizzie Borden image! Read all about it in this press release! http://www.hatchetonline.com/HatchetOnl ... Lizzie.pdf

The newest issue of The Hatchet is now online for your viewing pleasure. The Hatchet is in its fifth year of publication and this issue marks #21. As the magazine is now an official adult, there will be a party!

Subscriptions for the ONLINE journal are still only $20 for four issues! You can subscribe here: http://www.hatchetonline.com/HatchetOnline/index.htm

In this issue: a fantastic piece on Emma’s 1913 interview by Borden scholar and author Leonard Rebello; a story detailing the finding of the Lizzie Borden photograph (PLUS OTHER SURPRISES FOUND) by Stefani Koorey, Ph.D. (that’s me); another great installment of “Lizzie Borden Girl Detective” by Richard Behrens; a personal tribute to the late Neilson Caplain by his son Ron Caplain; a story about Lizzie’s Grand Tour by Shelley Dziedzic; an interview with criminologist, Professor Thomas Mauriello; a sweet plea about Edwin Porter’s grave by Sherry Chapman; a list of all residents of Second Street in 1892 (a massive accomplishment) by Harry Widdows; biographical pieces by Kat Koorey; and our regulars—Mary Elizabeth Naugle, Sherry Chapman, Douglas Walters, Eugene Hosey, and Denise Noe bringing in their very best work!

We have made some changes to the journal, the most obvious of which is the name. Now we are known at The Hatchet: Lizzie Borden’s Journal of Murder, Mystery & Victorian History. We are broadening our niche and promise to bring you the same level of scholarship and entertainment you have been used to.

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HOOT!!!! What a great picture of the little darling! Thanks, Stef!
Joe

Wow, Wow, Wow is all I can say! Great research and great photos. Hooray!

A new Lizzie - incredible in itself. Add to that Sarah, John Morse and a possible new Emma. And Orrin and Preston Gardner. This is an exciting treasure trove indeed.

Another super job with the layout of the magazine as well.

CONGRATULATIONS, Stefani, well done!

Big excitement in Bordenland tonight! I am cracking open a bottle of bubbly! Cheers!

Like Harry said: WOW!

There's no other way to say it. I'll even say it inside-out: OWO!!!

I don't even know where to begin.

Richard, doesn't she look like your girl detective now? You couldn't ask for a better illustration for your amazing fiction!

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Congrats Stefani Koorey......well done.

Thank you! It was hard keeping this one quiet until the magazine came out. I hope you all enjoy the content. I forgot to add that there are two poems in The Hatchet too this issue. One by Larry Allen and one by Michael Brimbau.

Now that The Hatchet has expanded its niche, please let me know what you would like to see included.

I still can hardly believe it!

Isn't she just beautiful?- Our Lizzie!!!
Wow!

How do you guys keep up that level of quality!!!

The photos are unbelievable, Stef. We are so indebted to you for the opportunity to see them. Just think -- not that long ago -- how many Bordenites could have sat in front of a screen and reaped the benefits of your determined sleuthing?

Thanks to everyone who worked on this issue! I skimmed the slide-show this morning and the content is amazing -- but I'm going to wait until the hard copies are available to really take it all in. I don't order every issue in hard copy, but this particular one, with the new photographs, the Gardner bios and Harry's list of addresses, is something I can't risk losing through the vagaries of technology.

I notice some of my favorite Lizzie topics are in there, as well -- forensics, speculation about Emma's 'interview' ... and Eugene's take on Victoria Lincoln.....

So much to look forward to.....

I know it's not an original thought, but I can only re-echo the "WOW" that is resounding through the forum! There is SO much packed into this issue that it really does render one speechless. Kudos to Stefani, Kat, and every one of the authors involved in this remarkable issue. Congratulations for not only becoming THE leaders in Borden research, but also for providing us with articles that cover the whole spectrum, from thought-provoking to fun. Bravo to all!

Can anyone comment on Lizzie's hat and coat? I know nothing about clothing from the period but would love to hear what a more informed person makes out of the clothing Lizzie has on in the photo....

The link at fashion-era.com might be helpful.
http://www.fashion-era.com/Childrens_cl ... ctures.htm

She has on a summer straw with a double-breasted reefer jacket which looks to be either lightweight fulled wool or heavy wool flannel, with a piped collar. The jacket has the look of a seamstress made garment, not a catalogue order. The collar could be described as an Eton Collar, popular with young boys at that prestigious school. Piping was a popular trim technique which had its origins in nautical and military uniforms.

Would the jacket be a clue to the season in which the photo was taken?

Stefani, just out of curiosity, how do we know this is Lizzie. I'm not doubting it and I probably already know the answers (the context of the album, the eyes, the eye brows, etc.), I'm just trying to get a sense of how you guys operate and think when you are out in the field confronting such material.

In your article you mention the picture was in a different album than the "6 of 9" Holy Grail and was unmarked and undentified.

Can you say a few words about how you know this is really Lizzie?

The straw hat is probably the give away. I would guess this might be a Spring ensemble- maybe even Easter (April or late March). Springs could be plenty chilly back then- and even in New England NOW. I feel that Fall can be ruled out because straw hats would have been replaced by winter-type fabrics.

What a great picture. Here's to you, Stef!

Also love the new catch phrase---"Murder, Mystery & Victorian History"!

I can't speak for Stefani, but I do know that we have been looking at phoney Lizzies for a long time. Ever since E-Bay started selling fake Lizzies is how long we (a group of us) have been studying her visage. That's about 7 years now. And I mean studying. For days- and discuss then thoroughly. There are facial ratios I go by, and ears are very important.
I've memorized Lizzie's ears, actually.
Stefani tells, in her article, that she is always on the look out for Lizzie items. I think she has the eye for visages because she has trained herself in the comparison of known-with-unknown portraits.

Again, personally I myself have made a study of the Gardner family for a few years now, collecting what info I could. They are a pet project of mine. When Stefani showed me a copy of the photo, and the context and provenance was Orrin Gardner, I knew immediately. If you read my bio of him in this issue you will see how he as a bachelor inherited the spinster Emma Borden's personal items. I think this is Emma's picture of little Lizzie. I can just imagine how Emma would keep a portrait of Lizzie aged nine or ten, from the days when she herself still had sway over her character. I would think Emma wished to remember the little girl Lizzie- rather than the grown one who obviously did not get along with her.

These are just my opinions. It's a wonderful thing to contemplate!

Come to think of it, we have also convinced those who supported portraits of people who were thought to be a certain Borden- as not being of the person they thought. That is 3 times now- the Gay Studio's grouping with a fake Lizzie there (since LBQ days), the photo that has hung with Abraham Borden as Andrew's mother we have convinced those who hold it that it is really his step-mother, and that odd old portrait that has been published as Sarah Morse (the one in William's Casebook, page 110), we have pretty much disproved.
These are things we do- it's like second nature- that's why I forgot about them. Proving and disproving is a sideline we are interested in.

Richard the real clincher that shows that this is Lizzie is what you can't see in this part of the picture that is shown.
In the full picture Lizzie is holding an axe in her hand.

OMG, what an incredibly exciting issue!!! The new photos of John Morse, Sarah, Lizzie, and believed to be Emma, are absolutely awesome! I really liked the photos of Sarah and Andrew together; what a handsome couple. Sarah was a very pretty woman. The believed to be photo of Emma gives me the impression of a very troubled little girl.

I like the new title for The Hatchet. I can't begin to say which articles I enjoyed the most; all of the articles are simply marvelous. Kudos, congratulations and a BIG THANK-YOU to everyone who worked on this issue!!! I know it has already been said, but....

WOW!!!

Stefani - YOU HAVE OUTDONE YOURSELF!!! The new issue is breath-taking, and I mean that literally. I looked at it and just kept going, "Oh my God! ... Wow! ... Geez!..." Genuine photos! These are no e-Bay wanna-bes. What excitement in the Borden world!

I will wait till I get the hard copy to read it. But it is going to be hard to wait. So many goodies in there!

Rebello's article on Emma's interview is a terrific subject, and I know his article - whether it may agree with my thoughts or not - will be top of the line. He may have research in it, which I promise to read with an open mind. Glad to see another mystery of Richard's. Harry's list is fabulous! Haulover's take on Lincoln - oh, this I cannot miss. Kat's Gardner pieces will be fantastic reads! And Mary Naugle, Denise Noe and Shelley D. with her piece on The Grand Tour. I've always wanted to learn more about that. Dougoh is always funny - and so polished a writer. He carries you back to 1892. I hope I did not leave anyone out. It all is so - gee, 'wonderful' doesn't seem enough. Grand? Outstanding! Impressive! Exemplary! GREAT JOB, STEF! THANK YOU!

This is stunning! There are chills going up the back of my neck as I type this!

Also - if that IS Uncle John, I am in love.

Friday's edition of the Fall River Herald News has a story about the Lizzie photo discovery! Very nice! I am quite pleased!

http://www.heraldnews.com/homepage/x1971618769

Friends are purchasing copies and I will post the article from the paper on Mondo. I think it made the front page!

Neat article! Didn't the writer flub Sarah's age though, by about two years?

Cool article! It's all so exciting! Yay!

Hooray! If it is on the front page the discovery is getting the attention it deserves. It's a great find.

Stefani and Len Rebello deserve a great deal of credit. Three cheers for research well done!

What a treasure to see a new photo of Lizzie. Again, Hooray!

Wow, Stefani, cool article. Congratulations to you and Len - both of you deserve it.

Too bad writer Angela Carter is dead. I know she'd love seeing a photo of the little girl she wrote about in her short story, "Lizzie's Tiger."

You've gone from writing about history to making history!

Yes, the Lizzie photo is big news, along with the assortment of finds in the past couple months. Way to go Hatchet.

Proof of that is the further news that STEFANI KOOREY has been contacted by CHANNEL 5 in Boston. So this time around the good news is being translated from Newspaper to TV. Cool.



This is a great little find. After years of "Lizzie slamming" by the press this photo of a little girl places the face of innocence back on Lizzie's shoulders.

To compound on the news in my post above, I just heard that STEFANI has been contacted by the BOSTON GLOBE. LIzzie, back on the GLOBE, after all these years. (the Globe calls me all the time.......yea right!)

Though the Andrew and Sarah, along with all the other photos, are big news, in the end it is Lizzie everyone is interested in.

What is really wonderful is that, in addition to the announcement of the discoveries, this is a first-rate issue all around (I just finished the last piece - I spent a happy hour on the subway home yesterday reading my printout, though I'll buy the more permanent Lulu copy).

I loved Eugene Hosey's dissection of Victoria Lincoln, since my experience with the book is very similar. I, too, have learned to love it again, but for different values than when I first picked it up as a teen.

I also treasure Sherry's pieces, which could so easily tip over into bad taste but never do. I feel as though I actually know Bridget.

How wonderful that Lizzie as a girl detective is still the Lizzie we know, with her bad habits and attitude. It makes the stories exceptionally amusing.

I would read post-its if Len Rebello wrote them, so to have a piece of his is always welcome. Lizzie in Europe fascinates me, and I can use all the help I can get in keeping Old Fall River straight in my mind. Douglas Walters takes such pleasure in composing his well-written pieces that he pulls me right in, and Denise Noe always has something interesting and thoughful to present.

BRAVI!

If any of you get the Boston WCVB, ABC affiliate, could you tape the segment for me? I would love to have a copy! It is for tonight's news, they said.

The Globe is sending me a hard copy of the paper. Plus it will be online tomorrow. I am thrilled and honored to be involved this way with all of you and Lizzie studies. It is a good day for us all!

Maybe it will be on the ABC Evening News (national). I can't wait to see the Boston Globe tomorrow.

Thanks, Mister Bob G., for your comments on my kitchen piece. Did ya make the apple mash yet? When ya do, if ya could be so kynd as to let me know how it turns out. Mr. Borrden said it was too Irish for him, tho he ate his share plenty. I didn't get but what I could scrape from the bottom of the dish. The mean, old skinflint -

Watch your tongue, Maggie. It isn't your place. So sad Mrs. B was down with bronchitis, and I had to step in for her. What would she do without me? And, for those detractors who say I never looked in on her, it was because I did not want to catch it and spread it to others. - L A Borden

Sorry, Bob, they just got so excited about your post they pushed me out of the way and wrote themselves. Thanks! I gotta meet you some time in FR! - Sherry

Way to go Stefani. I got to hear your voice. Cool. Len Rebello looked good.

Channel 5 just ran the story on the Lizzie photo. The film was of Len Rebello at his home and of Stefani Koorey on the phone from Florida. Then they broke to a scene at 92 where the channel 5 reporter capped the report.

You can see the video for the news show online as WCVB-TV was kind enough to put it online!

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/15 ... etail.html

Len looks great!

Just saw the story on CNN Headline news! It plays every hour! Cowabunga dude!

Fox channel 25 also picked up the story last night and this morning it was on Channel 12 Boston. Lots of buzz around the newsstands this morning and the Globe carried the stories on the front page of B section. Yesterday's Herald was 3/4ths of the front page! Large photos of the articles are on the sanctaflora site.

Wow! I just went to "Mondo Lizzie". The press coverage is incredible! (as it should be - this is big NEWS, and Stef's worked so hard!) Well deserved, Len RUbulo (how could someone mispronounce 'Rebello', with Len sitting right there? - or so it appeared) and Stef!!!!!

I especially liked the video. It was good to see and hear you both! The professionalism you both have really showed. What will this do to the Lizzie world??? This is only the beginning for you, Stef.

Yes, the discovery is receiving great coverage. Yay!

Lizzie is bustin' out all over. Check it out on Mondo.

http://lizzieandrewborden.com/MondoLizzie/

I'm still reeling from the shock of seeing our little girl. It seems almost dreamlike to me. I can't even imagine how good Stef and Len must feel!

Thanks so much for posting the on-line news link.

So cool!

Stefani,
This is the first Hatchet issue that I have read and it is wonderful. Every article was interesting and informative. I guess I am lucky that I signed up in time to see our Little Lizzie. You know I have always thought that many of the pictures we have of Lizzie shows an attractive young woman. I would go so far as to say pretty in one or two. I know many people have differed with me on this opinion. I don't think anyone will disagree that young Lizzie was so cute ,especially in her little hat and coat.
I know we will be hearing alot more about the treasure trove that must exist at Luthers.
Keep up the good work and congratulations to Stefani and of course my friend Len!!!

Congratulations to Stef & Len, Wow the press coverage is just unbelievable. I'm still waiting for my copy of The Hatchet, I have a PO Box and the post office was closed today. I can't wait to get my hands on it and read it from cover to cover.

Kudos to Stefani and Len for their fantastic find! When I read the news of the find I was just grinning from ear to ear, something new (to us) and exciting in the world of Lizzie. The thought that those photos have been sitting moldering and forgotten for years until our dynamic duo sleuthed them out is just so cool! It makes me wonder what new Borden finds may be brought to light over time, it just boggles the mind, but, in a good way .

Susan you are mentioned in the new issue near the front, you know! In "Comments," I believe.

Really? What exactly did I say or was said? I don't have the current issue and am so curious now.

I was in Mass. Saturday and saw the item in The Boston Globe!

Oh, and yes, Sherry! Absolutely!