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Lizzie In The 1920 Census

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:32 pm
by Gary
I was looking up some census records today and found Lizzie in the 1920 census. She is listed as Lizbeth A. Borden.

I believe I can make out Victoria Lincoln, but she is much further down on the page. I thought she lived only a couple of doors down from Lizzie.

I will try to provide a link to the image but my computer has been acting up recently. I would like to take a hatchet to this machine and buy a new model.

Gary

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:46 pm
by Harry
We had quite a discussion of the census back in February. It's in the archives at:

http://www.lizzieandrewborden.com/Archi ... census.htm

The URL for the census reports is:

http://www.rootdig.com/lizzie_borden.html

I know what you mean about taking a hatchet to a computer. I've been tempted. My last one almost received a Borden chop.

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:32 pm
by Kat
I see that "Lincoln."
I think it is #457?
She lived farther away than she recalled, from Lizbeth.

What is that "Head-of-household" name? Baba Lincoln?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:57 am
by diana
Here's Lincoln on her proximity to Maplecroft:

"I went back. And I could not believe my own eyes. For years, in perfect good faith, I had dined out on my vivid memories of having once been Lizzie Borden's next-door neighbor. I was wrong. Lizzie had lived at the near end of the next block." (A Private Disgrace, page 26)

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:06 am
by Kat
Thanks, Diana.
I went to get our Lincoln but it was gone!

Can anyone read that first name, Head?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:25 pm
by diana
I can't be sure but it does look like Baba N. to me.

Can anyone decipher the two column headings right next to 'relation'? They apply to the head of the family. The ones that have a definite "R" in the first column don't have anything in the second column -- but Lizzie and 'Baba' have something in both columns.

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:05 pm
by william
This is irrelevant to the present discussion, but I thought it was an interesting bit of trivia: Victoria Lincoln's first novel, and only mystery, The Swan Island Murders can be had for about five dollars. If you want the same book with a dust jacket it will cost $150-$300.

Save those dust jackets

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:07 am
by Kat
diana @ Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:25 pm wrote:I can't be sure but it does look like Baba N. to me.

Can anyone decipher the two column headings right next to 'relation'? They apply to the head of the family. The ones that have a definite "R" in the first column don't have anything in the second column -- but Lizzie and 'Baba' have something in both columns.
I just happen to have stored the headers of the 1920 census. If you can't read it, maybe it can be made bigger by "zoom?"

One can click on the picture:

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:38 am
by diana
Kat, you are a wonder! Now I can see enough to know what they say. The two columns have the main heading "Tenure" and column one says "home [house?] owned or rented" while column two is "if owned, free of mortgages".

So, clearly, What's his Name Lincoln owns his house free of mortgages. But it looks like that's an 'M' next to Lizzie's -- meaning Maplecroft was still mortgaged in 1920?

Re: Lizzie In The 1920 Census

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:11 pm
by Kat
Gary @ Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:32 pm wrote:I was looking up some census records today and found Lizzie in the 1920 census. She is listed as Lizbeth A. Borden.

I believe I can make out Victoria Lincoln, but she is much further down on the page. I thought she lived only a couple of doors down from Lizzie.

I will try to provide a link to the image but my computer has been acting up recently. I would like to take a hatchet to this machine and buy a new model.

Gary
HARRY WROTE:
The URL for the census reports is:

http://www.rootdig.com/lizzie_borden.html
>>>>>>>>>>>


That says "Lizbeth A. Andrew"- how did you guys find it? There's no BORDEN.
It is Lizzie tho...that's weird!
It says French Street, and her servants names are correct...