health problems

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:54 pm

I got to thinking about this this week. This week I have had to stay home from work with my blood pressure, even got put in the hospital for a couple of days,.

So, what I was wondering, other than her gall bladder surgery later in life, did lizzie have any cronic illnesses, like blood pressure or diabeties? Anyone know?

SallyG · Post by **SallyG** » Wed May 06, 2009 7:29 pm

Hope you are feeling better. Do you take any blood pressure medications? I've been on two blood pressure medicines and a diuretic for several years to keep mine at the right level.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:56 pm

Gee, snokkums! I hope you get-well-soon!

I've often wondered about how bad Lizzie's gall bladder trouble was to get her finally to have surgery, and for how long she suffered. I think Augusta here pointed out a news item that claimed Lizzie had heart disease over time??

Oh here it is:
Sourcebook, June 2, 1927, "Lizzie Borden Dead"- page 330:
"Death was due to heart disease...She had been in poor health for some years..."

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:43 am

Yup SallyG take three different types twice a day. And I have the nitro patch too. Getting to feel better.I have to go to Duke in the morning for some tests; one of them they are going to do is look at my arterites. That should be fun. lol.

Thanks for the cocern. I looked at the Sourcebook on page 330. Thanks for the info, Kat.

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Sun May 10, 2009 11:30 am

Who said Lizzie Borden died of gall bladder problems?

If one does his/her research you will discover she died of a heart attack.

Proof of that is in the photo below, right out of Barbara Silveria's book The Dark Side of Lizzie Borden.

See?

kssunflower · Post by **kssunflower** » Sun May 10, 2009 3:15 pm

Snokks, I hope your tests turn out ok. A few years ago I was on Procardia for the same problem. Take care of yourself.

mbhenty,

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1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Sun May 10, 2009 4:59 pm

snokkums @ Wed May 06, 2009 12:54 pm wrote:I got to thinking about this this week. This week I have had to stay home from work with my blood pressure, even got put in the hospital for a couple of days,.

So, what I was wondering, other than her gall bladder surgery later in life, did lizzie have any cronic illnesses, like blood pressure or diabeties? Anyone know?

Lizzie's gall blader is the only health issue that I have ever heard Lizzie having. Being that she lived into her '60s she probably had other health problems as well.
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Keep an eye on your BP Snokks. It's nothing to fool around with or take for granted. High or low it can be a killer. Proper diet and daily exercise.

-1bigsteve (o:

mbhenty · Post by **mbhenty** » Sun May 10, 2009 10:45 pm

One of the biggest killers of survivors from surgery is a condition called "COMPLICATIONS".

Complications from surgery is a serious problem today and must have been a much dire factor in Lizzie's day.

Lizzie died of complications from surgery.

The condition which finally did her in was complications of the heart caused by surgery, or as is written on her death certificate, "MYOCARDITIS".

Myocarditis is an inflammation of the heart which may be caused by infection, or as is common in third world countries, a virus.

Did Lizzie have myocarditis before the operation?

Was it a life threatening condition, before the operation?

If Lizzie had a healthy heart which was strained by an operation, or caused by a condition which she did not have before the operation, such as an infection or virus concluding in myocarditis, or worsening an existing myocarditis condition shorting her life, can we conclude that she died of a heart attack?

If she did not have the gall bladder condition, could she have lived several years more?

We all die from something and what ever it is that kills us concludes with the heart stopping.

(I have a friend with a wife who died at 35. She had lung cancer and was on a vigorous campaign to beat it. After several years she finally beat it. A year later she died of liver disease........caused by all the medication she took for her cancer. What did she die from; the cancer or liver disease?)

Are we splitting hairs?

Was it a coincidence that Lizbeth had an operation just before she died of myocarditis?

My conclusion is that Lizzie died from complications from surgery. The gall bladder surgery killed Lizzie Borden, not her heart.

Or at least that is how I see it.

augusta · Post by **augusta** » Sun May 17, 2009 12:21 pm

I think Lizzie died about a year after her gall bladder surgery. I have read that she never really recovered from that surgery. But, mb, she may not have recovered from that surgery because of her bad heart.

Kat, your memory is phenomenal. I remembered I had posted that and was gonna look it up, but I remembered probably because I was the one who posted it. Thanks for posting it on this thread.

I remember reading somewhere that in the end Lizzie had pneumonia.

BTW, it turns out that Truesdale Hospital was a plush hospital for the wealthy. Figures, Lizzie would have the very best.

I wonder if the room she died in still exists.

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