New Borden house owners hard at work

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:43 am

So says this mornings article in the Herald News! Hooray.

It does mention they contacted Starbucks (Ugh!) and are awaiting a reply. I cannot believe Starbucks would consider that a choice location.

http://www.heraldnews.com/site/news.cfm ... 9784&rfi=6

doug65oh · Post by **doug65oh** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:30 am

I can see the headlines now:

"Caffeine Deficiency: Motive For Murder?"

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:51 am

That will do it for me in the morning. Don't even think of talking to me before I have my cup of what W.C. Fields referred to as "Mocha Java". At least not while there's a hatchet in the room.

I did some looking around and found that coffee shops go back a long way. On a Jack the Ripper site I learned that Elizabeth Stride's (one of the Ripper's victims) husband owned a coffee shop. From that same article:

"Even by 1841 there were 1,600 coffee shops in the capital [London], charging 1d or 2d a cup and selling buns, pastries and cheap snacks."

http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/d ... offee.html

Maybe not a bad idea after all.

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:52 am

Thanks for the article, Harry. Well, that answers my question about the bloodstains I've been wondering about for so long. The article says something about part of the Borden barn still being there? Wasn't the whole thing torn down eons ago?

doug65oh · Post by **doug65oh** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:31 am

You know Susan, I could almost swear you're right. In Rebello I think there is some mention of the barn having been "dismantled" ...in 1929 I believe it was, and a picture as well. My copy oddly enough is right at hand... I'll see what I can find therein.

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:37 pm

"With a new owner and manager taking charge of the Lizzie Borden Bed & Breakfast, visitors will get to view a macabre piece of history they haven’t seen before -- the basement ."

Eleanor always gave a very wonderful, interesting, and informative tour in the basement. I spent some time in the basement all by myself both of the times I stayed at the house. The blacklight part and whatever else Ms. Wilbur and Mr. Woods add to the tour will be new, but the reporter saying that the basement hasn't been seen is not very accurate as far as I can see.

Tracy....

Mark A. · Post by **Mark A.** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:51 pm

Starbucks should at least consider it. it is a "Killer" location!

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:10 pm

Maybe instead of Starbucks...they should just open up their very own...more "Lizziefied" coffee shop. They could call it "The Axeccidental Cup".

Tracy...

doug65oh · Post by **doug65oh** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:48 pm

Good to the last...chop??

Bob Gutowski · Post by **Bob Gutowski** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:57 pm

George Quigley showed us the basement the first time Jay and I visited, and Len has taken me down there, so I feel privileged.

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:07 pm

doug65oh @ Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:48 pm wrote:Good to the last...chop??

Good one Doug65oh! And I like Tracy's name too. As for me I'll have a latte with my hatchet cookies.

bsr88 · Post by **bsr88** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:01 pm

^ LOL! Love the hatchet cookies. It would be neat if just for fun they shaped the johnny cakes in that shape! It sounds like the new owners are doing good so far - except for the starbucks. However I don't thin the house really neads a paint job, though.

mind · Post by **mind** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:28 pm

bsr88 wrote:^ LOL! Love the hatchet cookies. It would be neat if just for fun they shaped the johnny cakes in that shape! It sounds like the new owners are doing good so far - except for the starbucks. However I don't thin the house really neads a paint job, though.

beware of ouija boards...the energeries they unleash can be from mostly immature wanderers who play tricks!

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:25 pm

Well good for you! I was going to slowly approach the topic after I heard what was written by OUIJA, but brs88 hadn't been around much posting...

Not to gang up on you brs88- but you are better off developing your own natural abilities toward *sensitivity* which you can control, than trusting in a OUIJA board.

Bob Gutowski · Post by **Bob Gutowski** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:54 am

I stopped into the Leary Press and met Lee Ann when I was on vacation, passing through Fall River. The latest is that there will be no Starbucks, and that most, if not all, of the Press will be torn down. She may have a small cafe in the side yard outside the sitting room. She seems like a lovely, committed young lady (I didn't get to meet her boyfriend), and I wished her luck. Isn't it funny that her last name is the name of three of the Borden jurors, with various spellings?

ALSO: Not every tour (or most of them) will show the cellar, as Lee Ann will, of necessity, moving her office down there.

Kashesan · Post by **Kashesan** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:16 pm

I've struck up an e-friendship with one of the gals who works at 92 and the gift shop. She told me that the new owners are letting go of the staff, or allowing them to stay on in a diminished capacity. Not clear as to what, but it sounds kind of sad for them.

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:38 am

Wow...letting them go...whew. I was under the impression that Ed, Eleanor and Dave were all staying. It will be very sad, and very different without them.

Tracy...

Kashesan · Post by **Kashesan** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:02 am

I think they are still giving the tours-let me call my friend and get more details!

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:47 am

Who's your friend there ? So many great people work there. I loved Elenor's tours...talking with Ed, and Dave is a GREAT cook ! There were severeral other great people who work there too. All of them made the 'staying at Lizzie's' experience so much fun.

Tracy...

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