Late Saturday nights there is a show called "Paranormal Borderline" or "Unexplained Mysteries"- or something like that.
There's a lot of special effects in the sequences between stories.
But it's the same old "Unexplained Mysteries" or "Mysteries of the Unexplained" or whatever the heck that show was called in it's earlier incarnation.
Some of the script is the same and some of the stories have the same illustrative camera work.
Anyway, does anyone else ever catch it?
It's on here about 1:30 a.m. for an hour.
And repeats on Sunday night, about a half hour earlier. (on "UPN")
Anyway, last weekend they had hauntings on- and showed the old schoolhouse in Bodega Bay, which Hitchcock filmed in the movie "The Birds."
Our family had visited the place c. 1976, when we were motorhoming across the US to San Fransisco.
The school is up on a hill- but in the movie they show the sound down below, from that view- but in reality the bay cannot be seen from that view.
The school is called "Potter's School" and was built in the 1870's. It's now a private residence. The place has a reputation for being haunted and the program showed the family and the investigators examing the house and telling their stories of their experiences there.
The woman who lived there heard a rap on the door upstairs in the room she was in and turned around to look and saw the knob turning! She was alone in the place at the time.. She and others have heard schoolchildren in the yard tho there are no kids there.
Mrs. Taylor (?) heard a little girl's voice speak, "HI", and it echoed, she said, tho there was no child there
There is a children's rocker on the second floor which rocks by itself and a beach ball in the room rolls by itself.
The crew, after hearing and filming the lady telling this story of the "HI", went outside and saw "HI" written in the dust on the outside of an upper floor window.. They had filmed and inspected the outside before they entered.
I had not heard that this site was considered haunted until this program.
About the building:
"He [Hitchcock] chose the Bodega Bay are for the weather and skyline, which at that time was subdued and open. The old Potter Schoolhouse in the town of Bodega was slated for demolitions when Hitchcock discovered it and had it shored up and rebuilt for the filming. It is the only original building that still stands to this day. The public is welcome to view the outside of the schoolhouse, it is however, a privately owned residence and may not be entered at this time."
http://www.bodegabay.com/features/birds.html
Photo of Potter's School from:
http://www.norcalmovies.com/TheBirds/
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Hi Kat: Yes, I have finally gone back to the site in my hometown where the haunted house once stood, the first time in thirty four years. (I posted a narrative on the old board regarding a haunted house in Wilton, NY that unforutnately burned in 1970, taking eight lives.)
I toured the new house on the property through the courtesy of the new owner of the land. There are some interesting coincidences between the new owner and the former one: both are/were heavily involved with the rodeo; both seem to relish telling tales, ESPECIALLY about ghosts; and the new owner (Jason) has six children, while six children died in the fire.
Jason had told me of seeing ghosts on the property and in the house. When I sent him photos of the family that lived there, he identified the two former owners as the ghosts he had seen with regularity in his new home. He said that the wife first appeared on the staircase last Christmas, smiling and mixing with the guests standing there. She has also been seen in their bedroom, and he believes that she watches over their new baby, as the baby always seems to be "talking" to someone. The husband walks through the wall almost every day, brushing by Jason's shoulder as he works at the computer.
As I said, I looked around the property as well. Not much is there to indicate that a most majestic house once stood there. Jason has rescued bricks and stonework from the old house, and ploughed under the remains of the house. Nevertheless I was a little disturbed to see some bedsprings sticking out of the dirt.
Jason says that there are two ghosts that he sees regularly on the property. One is a young man in uniform in the back corner of the property (near where a cemetery once stood). Also an old man in bib overalls (who was also seen in the old house by the former owners) walks around near the site of the old house. Jason says that he doesn't feel ill at ease near the old house, except at dusk. He said his dog goes up there all the time, but at dusk the dog will sit near the old site and howl for about ten minutes. Then he stops and comes home.
The original story was written up in a local book, "Saratoga County Ghosts". The author is now updating that book and plans to interview Jason. I will certainly let everyone know what new stories come to light!
I toured the new house on the property through the courtesy of the new owner of the land. There are some interesting coincidences between the new owner and the former one: both are/were heavily involved with the rodeo; both seem to relish telling tales, ESPECIALLY about ghosts; and the new owner (Jason) has six children, while six children died in the fire.
Jason had told me of seeing ghosts on the property and in the house. When I sent him photos of the family that lived there, he identified the two former owners as the ghosts he had seen with regularity in his new home. He said that the wife first appeared on the staircase last Christmas, smiling and mixing with the guests standing there. She has also been seen in their bedroom, and he believes that she watches over their new baby, as the baby always seems to be "talking" to someone. The husband walks through the wall almost every day, brushing by Jason's shoulder as he works at the computer.
As I said, I looked around the property as well. Not much is there to indicate that a most majestic house once stood there. Jason has rescued bricks and stonework from the old house, and ploughed under the remains of the house. Nevertheless I was a little disturbed to see some bedsprings sticking out of the dirt.
Jason says that there are two ghosts that he sees regularly on the property. One is a young man in uniform in the back corner of the property (near where a cemetery once stood). Also an old man in bib overalls (who was also seen in the old house by the former owners) walks around near the site of the old house. Jason says that he doesn't feel ill at ease near the old house, except at dusk. He said his dog goes up there all the time, but at dusk the dog will sit near the old site and howl for about ten minutes. Then he stops and comes home.
The original story was written up in a local book, "Saratoga County Ghosts". The author is now updating that book and plans to interview Jason. I will certainly let everyone know what new stories come to light!
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Wow! Thanks for the update. People might not recall that this is a haunting of people you once knew! To me, that is incredible. In one's own lifetime! I told this story to a girl 15 whose interest reminds me of me at her age and she was extremely curious. Her mother has seen spirits several times in her life. I've wondered why some people see them and some don't- even the same instant. I've had different theories over the years- what do you think?
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That's a very good question, and one to which I don't have the answer. I've never been in a situation where someone is sensing or seeing a presence which I am totally missing.
Jason told me of many experiences prior to moving to this property, and that other members of his family had the ability. But I also got the impression that his wife doesn't really pick up anything, while his children do once in a while.
What is your theory?
Jason told me of many experiences prior to moving to this property, and that other members of his family had the ability. But I also got the impression that his wife doesn't really pick up anything, while his children do once in a while.
What is your theory?
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Well, my theory doesn't really hold water I don't think, though I've not come up with anything better.
It is simply that those who don't believe in ghosts or don't care or have no need to see one, do see them and do have experiences- and that those who believe in something paranormal pretty heartily and would love to experience something, don't.
I guess, it's as if the spirit likes to shock- get a reaction- rather than a ho-hum, let's sudy this.
It doesn't make much sense.
This lady friend is bright and bilingual and my age from a different culture, probably similar religious upbringing. She has seen things since she was 2 years old and relies upon the elders in her family to tell her about what happened back then.
After several occurences she pretty much said quit it I don't like it- it's scary and it stopped.
It is simply that those who don't believe in ghosts or don't care or have no need to see one, do see them and do have experiences- and that those who believe in something paranormal pretty heartily and would love to experience something, don't.
I guess, it's as if the spirit likes to shock- get a reaction- rather than a ho-hum, let's sudy this.
It doesn't make much sense.
This lady friend is bright and bilingual and my age from a different culture, probably similar religious upbringing. She has seen things since she was 2 years old and relies upon the elders in her family to tell her about what happened back then.
After several occurences she pretty much said quit it I don't like it- it's scary and it stopped.
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Susan, have you toured the Whaley House?
No, not yet I haven't, no one wanted to go in it with me. Not because they were scared, I think they are just not up on touring Victorian homes, haunted or not. I've been up on the front porch and peeked in the windows, I've been in the garden out back where there are sightings of a ghostly dog. I've stuck my head in the door of the courtroom that is attached to the house where strange noises are reportedly heard on EVP. My sweetie would probably be up for it if I ask him to go. If I go any time soon I'll keep you posted if I see or feel anything.
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"Late Saturday nights there is a show called "Paranormal Borderline" or "Unexplained Mysteries"- or something like that.
There's a lot of special effects in the sequences between stories.
But it's the same old "Unexplained Mysteries" or "Mysteries of the Unexplained" or whatever the heck that show was called in it's earlier incarnation."
That show is on now. It's on hauntings tonight. It repeats on Sunday night at 1 a.m. to 2 a.m. I believe. "Unexplained Mysteries." Tonight they were talking about the possibility that ghosts "attack the most vunerable."
That's as good as my theory- & close.
They also used the phrase "residue haunting" which implies something of energy left-over from the tragedy that happened in that spot that is still slightly discernable.
I looked up the topic "Sonic Sensitivity" in the archives and I had mentioned that I had read about the possibility that a "haunting" could be the result of an unusual vibration:
"Subsequent research has determined that the frequency that causes vibrations of the eyeballs--and therefore distortion of vision--is around 19Hz."
"Vic Tandy was attempting to find a scientific explanation for a *spook* in his laboratory, which '...was characterized by a feeling of unease and vague glimpses of a grey apparition.' He found that a newly installed extractor fan was generating infrasound at 18.9Hz."
" '...Not only does the 19Hz frequency create VISUAL disturbances by vibrating the eyeball--hence the shimmering appearance of apparitions--but the frequency could also stimulate a psychological sense of disquiet.' "
--The haunting at the Brookdale Lodge in Northern California was investigated by Sylvia Browne, on the show tonight, and they talked about testing the waters in the *stream room* for Radon or other chemicals in the air which could cause hallucinations.
These all sound like plausible explanations for some *ghosts* or *hauntings*- but, of course, not all.
They also did the story on the Chicago Nightclub, "Excalibur" which was determined to have been a temporary morgue during the sinking of the Cruiseship, the Eastland, in the Chicago River, where 2,500 people were lost, in 1915. That is a strange story.
There's a lot of special effects in the sequences between stories.
But it's the same old "Unexplained Mysteries" or "Mysteries of the Unexplained" or whatever the heck that show was called in it's earlier incarnation."
That show is on now. It's on hauntings tonight. It repeats on Sunday night at 1 a.m. to 2 a.m. I believe. "Unexplained Mysteries." Tonight they were talking about the possibility that ghosts "attack the most vunerable."
That's as good as my theory- & close.
They also used the phrase "residue haunting" which implies something of energy left-over from the tragedy that happened in that spot that is still slightly discernable.
I looked up the topic "Sonic Sensitivity" in the archives and I had mentioned that I had read about the possibility that a "haunting" could be the result of an unusual vibration:
"Subsequent research has determined that the frequency that causes vibrations of the eyeballs--and therefore distortion of vision--is around 19Hz."
"Vic Tandy was attempting to find a scientific explanation for a *spook* in his laboratory, which '...was characterized by a feeling of unease and vague glimpses of a grey apparition.' He found that a newly installed extractor fan was generating infrasound at 18.9Hz."
" '...Not only does the 19Hz frequency create VISUAL disturbances by vibrating the eyeball--hence the shimmering appearance of apparitions--but the frequency could also stimulate a psychological sense of disquiet.' "
--The haunting at the Brookdale Lodge in Northern California was investigated by Sylvia Browne, on the show tonight, and they talked about testing the waters in the *stream room* for Radon or other chemicals in the air which could cause hallucinations.
These all sound like plausible explanations for some *ghosts* or *hauntings*- but, of course, not all.
They also did the story on the Chicago Nightclub, "Excalibur" which was determined to have been a temporary morgue during the sinking of the Cruiseship, the Eastland, in the Chicago River, where 2,500 people were lost, in 1915. That is a strange story.
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It's the old series "Unexplained Mysteries."
With new graphics.
It plays here Friday night and Saturday night is a repeat. I think it is on "UPN" 65- that's what it's called here.
UPN 65 (WRBW) out of Lake Mary. I guess it's local. Try your Yahoo Tv search for the show in your area. It's the only thing like it I can get though I've seen them all.
With new graphics.
It plays here Friday night and Saturday night is a repeat. I think it is on "UPN" 65- that's what it's called here.
UPN 65 (WRBW) out of Lake Mary. I guess it's local. Try your Yahoo Tv search for the show in your area. It's the only thing like it I can get though I've seen them all.
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Kat, the show I've been watching is called Weird Travels on the Travel channel, it really is a great show!
I visited the Whaley House this Saturday with my sweetie and had a sighting!!!!!!!!!
For those of you who have never heard of it, the Whaley house was built for Thomas Whaley in Old Town, San Diego in 1857, a brick Greek Revival style home. The house is known as one of America's most haunted houses.
What it looks like today:
Thomas Whaley lived in the house with his wife, Anna, and their many children: Anna Whaley, Anna Amelia(baby), Francis Hiton, and Thomas Whaley:
During his life, Thomas Whaley's home housed the court house in that addition on the left of the house, a one room general store, and at one point, a small upstairs theater which housed a small theater group. It also housed his family, his mother-in-law, his brother and his family, a very crowded house indeed!
There is alot of history of deaths in the Whaley home and on the site the house is built which I won't put here, but, a fascinating history indeed! Look it up, you won't be disappointed!
Anyhoo on to my sighting, once we came through the front door of the house and paid our fee, we were directed to go through a doorway to the left. We went through the doorway into the one room general store which is stocked with some of the items that would have been available in the 1800s. We were directed through one more doorway into the court house. The docent was giving a talk about the ghosts that haunt the house and grounds, she even showed pictures that were taken that showed odd white streaks and orbs and such.
I was standing over to the left of the courtroom, by that post in the left hand side of the photo, my sweetie was sitting down on one of the benchs nearby.
http://www.geocities.com/whaleyhouse/wh1a.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/whaleyhouse/wh6.jpg
I got an odd feeling about me and was slowly tuning out the docent's spiel, my attention was focused near that post. Suddenly there was a woman standing there, she was about 5' 3" or 4" tall, long medium brown hair that fell down her back and was held at the sides by barrettes and she was wearing drop earrings. She was wearing a long dress with buttons down the front, it looked to be about the early 1880s to me. The dress was a medium royal blue sort of color with small pink and light blue flowers and green leaves, it looked like a calico sort of material. She seemed to be appraising me and the group, just standing and watching us. It was amazing how quiet it was while this was going on, I had completely tuned out the noise of the room. I started to feel a chill settling on me and then she was gone. Well, you can best believe that I was startled, I've never seen anything like that in my life! But, there it had been, clear as life!
My sweetie had come over to me seconds afterward and asked me if I was okay, I was looking very pale. I told him what I had seen and we hung back to talk to the docent. She told us that many of the sightings in the courtroom were of people that had been through the legal system and had been sent to prison or death. From my description of the woman I had seen, the docent said that perhaps I had seen Anna Whaley herself who is said to haunt the house!
Here is a painting of Anna Whaley, it may be her that I had seen.
http://www.geocities.com/whaleyhouse/whpnt2.jpg
The rest of the tour went without incident, we tried to be as alone as we could while touring the house to see if anything or anyone else would show itself. The docent recommended that next time we came to bring a camera and to come when it was storming out, the ghosts are most active at these times.
We ended the tour and went up the street to a small cemetary where the grave of "Yankee Jim" is located. He was apparently hanged on the spot where the Whaley house now stands, legend has it that it was directly on the spot where an archway between the parlor and the study is. The street outfront of the cemetary actually runs over some unmarked graves, there are small brass markers in the street over each one. All in all, a remarkable day trip!
More photos of the Whaley house at this site:
http://www.geocities.com/whaleyhouse/whaleypix.html
A site with some of the deaths that occured at the Whaley house:
http://www.findaghost.com/articles/edit ... house.html
Another site with some of the sightings and where of the ghosts:
http://gothere.com/sandiego/Ghosts/Whaley/default.htm
Whaley's history:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/8 ... story.html
And last but not least, the Yankee Jim story:
http://www.thewhaleyhouse.com/yankee_jim.htm
I visited the Whaley House this Saturday with my sweetie and had a sighting!!!!!!!!!
For those of you who have never heard of it, the Whaley house was built for Thomas Whaley in Old Town, San Diego in 1857, a brick Greek Revival style home. The house is known as one of America's most haunted houses.
What it looks like today:
Thomas Whaley lived in the house with his wife, Anna, and their many children: Anna Whaley, Anna Amelia(baby), Francis Hiton, and Thomas Whaley:
During his life, Thomas Whaley's home housed the court house in that addition on the left of the house, a one room general store, and at one point, a small upstairs theater which housed a small theater group. It also housed his family, his mother-in-law, his brother and his family, a very crowded house indeed!
There is alot of history of deaths in the Whaley home and on the site the house is built which I won't put here, but, a fascinating history indeed! Look it up, you won't be disappointed!
Anyhoo on to my sighting, once we came through the front door of the house and paid our fee, we were directed to go through a doorway to the left. We went through the doorway into the one room general store which is stocked with some of the items that would have been available in the 1800s. We were directed through one more doorway into the court house. The docent was giving a talk about the ghosts that haunt the house and grounds, she even showed pictures that were taken that showed odd white streaks and orbs and such.
I was standing over to the left of the courtroom, by that post in the left hand side of the photo, my sweetie was sitting down on one of the benchs nearby.
http://www.geocities.com/whaleyhouse/wh1a.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/whaleyhouse/wh6.jpg
I got an odd feeling about me and was slowly tuning out the docent's spiel, my attention was focused near that post. Suddenly there was a woman standing there, she was about 5' 3" or 4" tall, long medium brown hair that fell down her back and was held at the sides by barrettes and she was wearing drop earrings. She was wearing a long dress with buttons down the front, it looked to be about the early 1880s to me. The dress was a medium royal blue sort of color with small pink and light blue flowers and green leaves, it looked like a calico sort of material. She seemed to be appraising me and the group, just standing and watching us. It was amazing how quiet it was while this was going on, I had completely tuned out the noise of the room. I started to feel a chill settling on me and then she was gone. Well, you can best believe that I was startled, I've never seen anything like that in my life! But, there it had been, clear as life!
My sweetie had come over to me seconds afterward and asked me if I was okay, I was looking very pale. I told him what I had seen and we hung back to talk to the docent. She told us that many of the sightings in the courtroom were of people that had been through the legal system and had been sent to prison or death. From my description of the woman I had seen, the docent said that perhaps I had seen Anna Whaley herself who is said to haunt the house!
Here is a painting of Anna Whaley, it may be her that I had seen.
http://www.geocities.com/whaleyhouse/whpnt2.jpg
The rest of the tour went without incident, we tried to be as alone as we could while touring the house to see if anything or anyone else would show itself. The docent recommended that next time we came to bring a camera and to come when it was storming out, the ghosts are most active at these times.
We ended the tour and went up the street to a small cemetary where the grave of "Yankee Jim" is located. He was apparently hanged on the spot where the Whaley house now stands, legend has it that it was directly on the spot where an archway between the parlor and the study is. The street outfront of the cemetary actually runs over some unmarked graves, there are small brass markers in the street over each one. All in all, a remarkable day trip!
More photos of the Whaley house at this site:
http://www.geocities.com/whaleyhouse/whaleypix.html
A site with some of the deaths that occured at the Whaley house:
http://www.findaghost.com/articles/edit ... house.html
Another site with some of the sightings and where of the ghosts:
http://gothere.com/sandiego/Ghosts/Whaley/default.htm
Whaley's history:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/8 ... story.html
And last but not least, the Yankee Jim story:
http://www.thewhaleyhouse.com/yankee_jim.htm
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WOW! Thanks for the post, Susan! I was reading and eating an apple and I bit my lip! Cool story! I like that everything else sort of faded away and you were *alone* with the lady.
Jeesh! i feel like I sent you there, tho I know you have hung around the place before. Our brother visited there and was very impressed with the atmosphere, and somehow hurt his foot out front after peering in windows! He hobbled away, tho he couldn't find anything lastingly wrong with his foot!
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Ouch! Sorry about your lip! From what I was told, the ghosts of the Whaley house are quite protective of it and that when you tour it, you should go with the idea firmly in mind that you are a guest of theirs and behave accordingly. Perhaps your brother was viewed as an intruder of sorts?
It really was an incredible experience, it was like going into a trance state with all this noise and commotion going on around me. When I say I saw her, it was definitely my mind's eye, I had tapped into something there where I could see her with that, but, not with plain sight. The overwhelming feeling I got while seeing this lady was curiosity, she was as curious about us as I was about her.
The docent has seen Anna Whaley before, just glimpses, but in the main part of the house, not the courtroom. Apparently she is quite happy with the remodeling work that has gone on in the house, bringing it back to how it was in the Whaley's day. The docent said that they were trying to decide which room would be done next as they have a new sponser. The overwhelming vote from the ghosts was the dining room, Anna wants the room to be brighter. This particular docent (wish I could remember her name now) has had many experiences there, sounds, sights, smells, etc. She told us of one time when she got to the house in the morning and decided, for some reason, to change into her period dress in the master bedroom, there is an employee dressing room in the upstairs theater. As she stood next to the bed she heard a woman yawn loudly as though she had just gotten up though there was no one to be seen in the bed. She apologized and hurried out of the room.
Just watched another episode of Weird Travels tonight; they visited the Myrtle's Plantation which is vying for the title of America's most haunted house. Sounds like there is alot of activity there too.
It really was an incredible experience, it was like going into a trance state with all this noise and commotion going on around me. When I say I saw her, it was definitely my mind's eye, I had tapped into something there where I could see her with that, but, not with plain sight. The overwhelming feeling I got while seeing this lady was curiosity, she was as curious about us as I was about her.
The docent has seen Anna Whaley before, just glimpses, but in the main part of the house, not the courtroom. Apparently she is quite happy with the remodeling work that has gone on in the house, bringing it back to how it was in the Whaley's day. The docent said that they were trying to decide which room would be done next as they have a new sponser. The overwhelming vote from the ghosts was the dining room, Anna wants the room to be brighter. This particular docent (wish I could remember her name now) has had many experiences there, sounds, sights, smells, etc. She told us of one time when she got to the house in the morning and decided, for some reason, to change into her period dress in the master bedroom, there is an employee dressing room in the upstairs theater. As she stood next to the bed she heard a woman yawn loudly as though she had just gotten up though there was no one to be seen in the bed. She apologized and hurried out of the room.
Just watched another episode of Weird Travels tonight; they visited the Myrtle's Plantation which is vying for the title of America's most haunted house. Sounds like there is alot of activity there too.
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Thats cool, Nancie, have you ever visited the B&B thats by you or can you only go in if you are a guest? Theres been so many shows on lately about haunted hotels and the like, I keep waiting for one of them to have the Lizzie Borden B&B on it.
Good memory, Kat! I hurt my ankle at the Old Town trolley station which is about 3 or 4 blocks diagonally away from the Whaley house. A perfectly good pair of boots down the drain from that experience!
Good memory, Kat! I hurt my ankle at the Old Town trolley station which is about 3 or 4 blocks diagonally away from the Whaley house. A perfectly good pair of boots down the drain from that experience!
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I just watched a show from the Travel channel that my sweetie TiVoed for me called Haunted New England. I wish I could remember the woman's name, Rebecca Conner, Connelly? She was murdered in a Massachusetts town, her ghost appeared to her brother and he told his tale in court, her son ended up being the culprit. What was so interesting about this is that they claimed that Lizzie Borden is a descendent from this family, does parricide run in the family?
Anyway, they went on to show the B&B, talked about the murders which they got so many things wrong on, like calling the maid, Bridget Kelly and never mentioning Uncle John staying at the house. It was irritating because they visited the Fall River Historic Society and talked to Dennis Binette. Dennis did show 2 goodies on the show that are not on display at the Society as they are considered too delicate. He showed the original typewritten witness statements and the bedspread from the guest room!!! He unfolded it and showed where there were handwritten words on the spread to indicate how it lay on the bed and the few blood spots on the spread. Martha McGinn talked about her odd occurences growing up in the house as well as the stories of other employees of the B&B.
Anyway, they went on to show the B&B, talked about the murders which they got so many things wrong on, like calling the maid, Bridget Kelly and never mentioning Uncle John staying at the house. It was irritating because they visited the Fall River Historic Society and talked to Dennis Binette. Dennis did show 2 goodies on the show that are not on display at the Society as they are considered too delicate. He showed the original typewritten witness statements and the bedspread from the guest room!!! He unfolded it and showed where there were handwritten words on the spread to indicate how it lay on the bed and the few blood spots on the spread. Martha McGinn talked about her odd occurences growing up in the house as well as the stories of other employees of the B&B.
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Wow, Susan that is cool!
I think that bedspread had been folded and on display, at least in the past. Does anyone know for sure?
When the recent video was filming I heard that they might possibly test that. I don't know why they would, but it was said that it had never been tested.
I love Dennis.
He said he likes to keep *in the background*, but I wonder when your show was made?
I'd be interested in how Martha MsGinn looked?
I think that bedspread had been folded and on display, at least in the past. Does anyone know for sure?
When the recent video was filming I heard that they might possibly test that. I don't know why they would, but it was said that it had never been tested.
I love Dennis.
He said he likes to keep *in the background*, but I wonder when your show was made?
I'd be interested in how Martha MsGinn looked?
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I saw the famous bedspread on display twice at the FRHS. The last time I was there (1994?) they were getting ready to take it off display. They were worried about the light hastening its disintegration.
I remember seeing the blood stains on it, and think just how unlike blood stains that they seemed. They looked much more like rust. I also remember being impressed at what a lovely textile it was. Very delicate and dainty, with a huge amount of work that went into making it. I wonder which of the Bordens made it?
The other things that impressed me in that exhibit were the samples of Abby and Andrew's hair. His hair was surprisingly rather yellow. Abby's was sort of steel-gray.
I remember seeing the blood stains on it, and think just how unlike blood stains that they seemed. They looked much more like rust. I also remember being impressed at what a lovely textile it was. Very delicate and dainty, with a huge amount of work that went into making it. I wonder which of the Bordens made it?
The other things that impressed me in that exhibit were the samples of Abby and Andrew's hair. His hair was surprisingly rather yellow. Abby's was sort of steel-gray.
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Kat,I think the episode was fairly new, within the last few years. I think on the show Dennis said that the spread used to be on display? Have you never seen Martha or were you just curious as to how she looked on the show? She was slender, blonde hair pulled back in a bun, blue eyes (I think), inderterminate age, they showed her so quickly and kept on cutting to other things like the ghost she saw in the basement, she thought it might be Abby or Lizzie. I was thinking more like Bridget, the cellar sounded more like her domain.
Yes, Stuart, I thought the same thing, it looked like the edge of the spread was trimmed with crocheted lace, very pretty. They also showed Abby and Andrew's hair samples on the show in their petri dishes, they didn't say whose was whose, but, I figured the white hair was Andrew's and the greyish color was Abby's.
Yes, Stuart, I thought the same thing, it looked like the edge of the spread was trimmed with crocheted lace, very pretty. They also showed Abby and Andrew's hair samples on the show in their petri dishes, they didn't say whose was whose, but, I figured the white hair was Andrew's and the greyish color was Abby's.
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Ah! I found out who Lizzie's alleged ancestor was that was killed by her son; Rebecca Cornell.
Research on Lizze's genealogy found an interesting twist: While Lizzie was found not guilty of patricide despite strong evidence, she had a five-greats grandfather who was found guilty of matricide on no more than the testimony of what a man had dreamed. Lizzie descended from Thomas CORNELL, born 1627 in England and executed 1673 in Portsmouth, RI. Cornell was convicted of matricide on the testimony of a man who said that the late Mrs. Cornell had come to him in a dream and accused her son of having killed her. Thomas Cornell almost certainly was not guilty. Thomas had another descendant (a 4th great-grandson) named Ezra Cornell; Ezra Cornell donated the original endowment for Cornell University.
From this site:
http://members.aol.com/alicebeard/borden.html
Research on Lizze's genealogy found an interesting twist: While Lizzie was found not guilty of patricide despite strong evidence, she had a five-greats grandfather who was found guilty of matricide on no more than the testimony of what a man had dreamed. Lizzie descended from Thomas CORNELL, born 1627 in England and executed 1673 in Portsmouth, RI. Cornell was convicted of matricide on the testimony of a man who said that the late Mrs. Cornell had come to him in a dream and accused her son of having killed her. Thomas Cornell almost certainly was not guilty. Thomas had another descendant (a 4th great-grandson) named Ezra Cornell; Ezra Cornell donated the original endowment for Cornell University.
From this site:
http://members.aol.com/alicebeard/borden.html
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My Haunted Camera
This never happened before with this camera I have been using for a year and a half.
I recently hosted our brother and his wife here and of course Stefani was here as well. We ate out Chinese (Our parents favorite restaurant) and came back here and played poker around the dining room table which we have had since I was in the 5th grade.
I took two or 3 lousy pictures (it was pretty late) and when I downloaded them into the IPhoto program on my computer there was an orb in the upper right of the picture near the ceiling and an odd light-shadow on the side of a painting our mother had done.
I never had an orb before.
I looked at the picture and that same night I looked at the dining room from the same angle with the same lights on and saw neither of these anamolies- especially not the *light-shadow.*
I call it that because it was just like a shadow would look, only it was light instead of dark!
We have played many a poker game around that table in that room as far back as the 1960's. Many a missing family member now, as well, who used to play.
Here are the places I have marked. I made sure I did not manipulate the photo- nor lighten it or give it contrast. This is *As Is*.
I did crop it and Saved it to WEB at 100k.
I haven't had an orb before, or since.
I recently hosted our brother and his wife here and of course Stefani was here as well. We ate out Chinese (Our parents favorite restaurant) and came back here and played poker around the dining room table which we have had since I was in the 5th grade.
I took two or 3 lousy pictures (it was pretty late) and when I downloaded them into the IPhoto program on my computer there was an orb in the upper right of the picture near the ceiling and an odd light-shadow on the side of a painting our mother had done.
I never had an orb before.
I looked at the picture and that same night I looked at the dining room from the same angle with the same lights on and saw neither of these anamolies- especially not the *light-shadow.*
I call it that because it was just like a shadow would look, only it was light instead of dark!
We have played many a poker game around that table in that room as far back as the 1960's. Many a missing family member now, as well, who used to play.
Here are the places I have marked. I made sure I did not manipulate the photo- nor lighten it or give it contrast. This is *As Is*.
I did crop it and Saved it to WEB at 100k.
I haven't had an orb before, or since.
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On the opposite side to this wall is my front living room window with the drapes closed. On the right, in the dining room there is a china cabinet, but there are 2 yellow bubble-paned glass inserts about 11" x 13".
Can it reflect in such a way that I cannot see it with the naked eye? The piece is against the wall, perpendicular to the window shown.
Well, I've not seen these shapes before or since.
As to something strange ever happening in that room: yes.
Our mother's doctor and friend had shot himself many years ago and as he lay dying for days in the hospital, our mother saw his reflection in that dining room window as she passed thru that room one night with those same lights on- the curtains were open. She saw him as if he were standing behind her reflected with her own face.
She turned to see and when she turned back he was gone. He died at that time she found out later when his family came over.
Can it reflect in such a way that I cannot see it with the naked eye? The piece is against the wall, perpendicular to the window shown.
Well, I've not seen these shapes before or since.
As to something strange ever happening in that room: yes.
Our mother's doctor and friend had shot himself many years ago and as he lay dying for days in the hospital, our mother saw his reflection in that dining room window as she passed thru that room one night with those same lights on- the curtains were open. She saw him as if he were standing behind her reflected with her own face.
She turned to see and when she turned back he was gone. He died at that time she found out later when his family came over.
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I would think any reflection of light would be readily seen, whatever the source is, if you can't see the light reflection with your naked eye and it only shows up in photos, you may have something there! Thats creepy what your mom saw, especially knowing afterwards that he had died already. What was your mom's reaction to that episode? Was she afraid? 
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She was amazed and that was about it. She raised me on Ruth Montgomery, Edgar Cayce, Jeanne Dixon.
She was accepting of such things.
It turns out she could dowse which I only learned about much much too late.
Her grandmother was supposed to be psychic.
I'll tell you, when we told the bereaved family what she saw they were upset and wondering why she saw him and they didn't! I could only think to tell them that maybe he sensed it would have been too much for them to bear at the time.
She was accepting of such things.
It turns out she could dowse which I only learned about much much too late.
Her grandmother was supposed to be psychic.
I'll tell you, when we told the bereaved family what she saw they were upset and wondering why she saw him and they didn't! I could only think to tell them that maybe he sensed it would have been too much for them to bear at the time.
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As much as I am into those things also, it would still have freaked me out, being alone and seeing something like that. When I sensed that woman at the Whaley House, I wasn't scared as I was in a room full of people, had I been alone, it would have been a different story!
Yes, it was probably for the best, if he had to appear to someone, better his friend that would be well with it instead of his family. Sounds like they had their hands full already.
Yes, it was probably for the best, if he had to appear to someone, better his friend that would be well with it instead of his family. Sounds like they had their hands full already.