Sarah Johnson Muder trial
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Smudgeman
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Sarah Johnson Muder trial
Has anyone been following this trial about a 16 year girl accused of murdering her parents? I watched some of the trial on court tv. Sarah claims she is innocent, and has even tried to blame the cleaning lady. However, there is alot of blood evidence against her on a pink bathrobe and gloves discarded in the trash. She also claims her parents bedroom door was shut as well as her bedroom door at the time of the murders. The bedrooms are across the hall from one another. They found blood and brain matter in Sarah's bedroom from a high powered shotgun used in the murders. Prosecutors say she murdered her parents in a dispute over her dating a 19 year old boy they dissaproved of. Sarah has reportedly been accused of saying she would be filthy rich when this was all over, inheriting money from her parents. Sound like anyone we know?
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doug65oh
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It's a live trial broadcast on CourtTV. The venue is Boise, Idaho. The website has details on the case at http://www.courttv.com/home_news/index.html
The outlook is less-than-rosey for this kid, from what I've seen of the trial so far...
The outlook is less-than-rosey for this kid, from what I've seen of the trial so far...
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Kat
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Oh Thank You!
You are better than a dictionary!
You know we-all talk funny down here, and I hear the name but I don't read it- so thanks!
Terri Schiavo.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=u ... earch+News
It's a big deal here- been going on forever it seems. It has flared up again since The Supreme Court kicked it out.
It's not really a "murder" case tho. Maybe I am off Topic.
You are better than a dictionary!
You know we-all talk funny down here, and I hear the name but I don't read it- so thanks!
Terri Schiavo.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=u ... earch+News
It's a big deal here- been going on forever it seems. It has flared up again since The Supreme Court kicked it out.
It's not really a "murder" case tho. Maybe I am off Topic.
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theebmonique
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Maybe you are not off topic at all Kat. Many people believe that if the person is 'alive', however loosely that term is used...IS alive and to purposely end that life...for whatever reason is murder. Others believe that in cases such as Schiavo, a 'right to die' should be considered.
Some cases from the past that I remember from the news are Karen An Quinlan, and Nancy Cruzan. I think most of us remember Dr. Kevorkian and his 'cause' as well.
I consider myself as a "right to life' supporter. Although I would never be involved in some of the extreme activities like bombing abortion clinics. I believe there is a more peaceful way to get the message out.
I am a little bit on the fence with some of the 'right to die' issues. I would never want euthanasia to become so commonplace, that because some old lady was a 'burden' to her family...yet 'alive' in some nursing care facility to be 'put out of her misery'...just because she is 'inconvenient'. Coming from the religious background I do, I was taught to respect life...no matter what...that God was the only one who had a 'right' to decide when death would come. Then came my experience working in the medical field...
I saw some suffering. A lot of suffering. I worked in both the lab and the operating room. I know that the medical staff would do EVERYTHING possible to save a life in danger of being lost. But sometimes that 'saved' life...was never the same. They could no longer laugh...cry...hold their children...love their spouse, etc. I would feel especially bad when it was children who because they were 'brought back, would now live a life that would be nothing like what children SHOULD have. Cancer patients...in the final stages...it was extremely hard to watch them suffer through the day.
I had a friend who died from a form of myosarcoma. It was so hard to watch her suffer. I am thankful I have never been put in a position to have to say yes or no to 'unplugging' someone.
I am not sure what I would do now if someone I loved was "terminal" and asked me to help them die. I know in my heart I would not want them to have to siffer any longer, but could I go against all that I had been taught about 'respect life...no matter what' ? OR...by helping a suffering person...like we would any suffering animal, be showing MORE respect for life ?
From what I understand, a "living will" helps take some of the question of whether to keep someone alive at all costs. We should all talk to our families about our wishes, should we ever happen to be in the position like that of the Schiavo/Schindler family or others.
What are your thoughts ?
Tracy...
http://www.nrlc.org/
http://www.euthanasia.cc/cases.html
http://www.lifenews.com/
http://www.publicagenda.org/issues/fron ... =right2die
Some cases from the past that I remember from the news are Karen An Quinlan, and Nancy Cruzan. I think most of us remember Dr. Kevorkian and his 'cause' as well.
I consider myself as a "right to life' supporter. Although I would never be involved in some of the extreme activities like bombing abortion clinics. I believe there is a more peaceful way to get the message out.
I am a little bit on the fence with some of the 'right to die' issues. I would never want euthanasia to become so commonplace, that because some old lady was a 'burden' to her family...yet 'alive' in some nursing care facility to be 'put out of her misery'...just because she is 'inconvenient'. Coming from the religious background I do, I was taught to respect life...no matter what...that God was the only one who had a 'right' to decide when death would come. Then came my experience working in the medical field...
I saw some suffering. A lot of suffering. I worked in both the lab and the operating room. I know that the medical staff would do EVERYTHING possible to save a life in danger of being lost. But sometimes that 'saved' life...was never the same. They could no longer laugh...cry...hold their children...love their spouse, etc. I would feel especially bad when it was children who because they were 'brought back, would now live a life that would be nothing like what children SHOULD have. Cancer patients...in the final stages...it was extremely hard to watch them suffer through the day.
I had a friend who died from a form of myosarcoma. It was so hard to watch her suffer. I am thankful I have never been put in a position to have to say yes or no to 'unplugging' someone.
I am not sure what I would do now if someone I loved was "terminal" and asked me to help them die. I know in my heart I would not want them to have to siffer any longer, but could I go against all that I had been taught about 'respect life...no matter what' ? OR...by helping a suffering person...like we would any suffering animal, be showing MORE respect for life ?
From what I understand, a "living will" helps take some of the question of whether to keep someone alive at all costs. We should all talk to our families about our wishes, should we ever happen to be in the position like that of the Schiavo/Schindler family or others.
What are your thoughts ?
Tracy...
http://www.nrlc.org/
http://www.euthanasia.cc/cases.html
http://www.lifenews.com/
http://www.publicagenda.org/issues/fron ... =right2die
I'm defying gravity and you can't pull me down.
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Kat
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Tracy.
It's something big here and has been been big for a long time.
I suppose it's basically (bottom line here) the medical profession which, since it has the ability to bring someone back, or keep someone from dying, that they do use this gift, but there is no consideration for quality of life afterwards. Or the price the family pays, the patient pays, or the real life cost. I would hope that each case would be considered differently, according to the position the patient is in, and their pre-determined wishes, and the wishes of the nearest family member.
In this case, it's the husband who is fighting to pull the plug, and the parents of the girl are those who are fighting to keep her alive. The husband seemingly has domain over her parents.
It's very sad that while this couple, the parents, are patiently hoping for their daughter's recovery they still have to spend time and energy fighting this in the courts, making appearances and giving interviews and traveling for their cause.
Personally, I wonder why the husband doesn't divorce the lady, giving up his rights to his wife to her parents? If he is willing to have her die, I'd think he'd be willing to divorce?
It's something big here and has been been big for a long time.
I suppose it's basically (bottom line here) the medical profession which, since it has the ability to bring someone back, or keep someone from dying, that they do use this gift, but there is no consideration for quality of life afterwards. Or the price the family pays, the patient pays, or the real life cost. I would hope that each case would be considered differently, according to the position the patient is in, and their pre-determined wishes, and the wishes of the nearest family member.
In this case, it's the husband who is fighting to pull the plug, and the parents of the girl are those who are fighting to keep her alive. The husband seemingly has domain over her parents.
It's very sad that while this couple, the parents, are patiently hoping for their daughter's recovery they still have to spend time and energy fighting this in the courts, making appearances and giving interviews and traveling for their cause.
Personally, I wonder why the husband doesn't divorce the lady, giving up his rights to his wife to her parents? If he is willing to have her die, I'd think he'd be willing to divorce?
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Kat
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The family (Schindler) got a Stay today. It prohibits the removal of a feeding tube- for how long I don't know.
This has been going on for 15 years.
Don't be fooled by the press pictures of Teri- she doesn't look like that, all made up and nicely dressed and eyes open looking alert. I don't know how long it took them to get that shot, but even that one is old.
This has been going on for 15 years.
Don't be fooled by the press pictures of Teri- she doesn't look like that, all made up and nicely dressed and eyes open looking alert. I don't know how long it took them to get that shot, but even that one is old.
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theebmonique
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I don't think that because he wants to let her die that it means he doesn't love her and would divorce her, giving it all over to her parents. I think he does love her very much, and that is why he is fighting so hard to stop her suffering. After 15 years of being in the state of existence Terry has been in, Kat is right...she does NOT look like some of the nice-nice pictures that have been shown on TV. I have seen many patients who have been in situations similar to Terry Schiavo's, and they are not al smiley-faced and have their hair done nice. They are in bed 24/7/365...and for Terry that extends to 24/7/365 multiplied by 15.
I know I commented earlier about considering myself as a pro-life supporter. But if Terry is not living as she would like...is quality of life to be taken out of the equation ? I know if I were in Terry's position, I would not want to 'not live' like that.
My family is aware of my feelings and wishes. Please share your feeling with your family
Yes, her parents love her too. Very much. They are not ready to let their beloved daughter go. I can only imagine what ungodly pain they must be feeling.
I can say what I think Schiavo's should do and what I think is the right thing for them...but when it comes down to it, I think I know what I would do if it were me...but until I am IN that situation, I will not truly know what I would do. I know what I would want for me...but to HAVE to make that decision for someone else...?
Tracy...
I know I commented earlier about considering myself as a pro-life supporter. But if Terry is not living as she would like...is quality of life to be taken out of the equation ? I know if I were in Terry's position, I would not want to 'not live' like that.
My family is aware of my feelings and wishes. Please share your feeling with your family
Yes, her parents love her too. Very much. They are not ready to let their beloved daughter go. I can only imagine what ungodly pain they must be feeling.
I can say what I think Schiavo's should do and what I think is the right thing for them...but when it comes down to it, I think I know what I would do if it were me...but until I am IN that situation, I will not truly know what I would do. I know what I would want for me...but to HAVE to make that decision for someone else...?
Tracy...
I'm defying gravity and you can't pull me down.